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Posted by Rampop II
3/05/2023 5:36 am
#21

Rock wrote:

There is some relationship between craftsmanship/sturdiness and price, but A) there are plenty of quality garments you can find at affordable prices,

And there's a whole other discussion to be had on this point. Making clothes is hard work. There's been a de–valuation of clothing going on for decades, driven in large part by the "race to the bottom" practice of outsourcing to 3rd world sweatshops and resulting in consumer expectations of prices far below what a thing is really worth. 

This whole discussion, including the sweatshops and the practice of enforcing "perceived obsolescence" in the fashion industry (along with the fact that I couldn't watch the Chris Rock livestream event tonight because my perfectly functional devices are somehow too old for them to stream to) keeps recalling to me Annie Leonard's 2007 short doc The Story of Stuff.





Incidentally one of my most reliable go–to resources for affordable sweatshop–free clothing is All American Clothing Co. (not to be confused with American Apparel; I can't fit my mighty glutes into their skeenie pahnts). Unlike most sweatshop–free clothing retailers that seem to sell exclusively hemp drawstring bags as clothing, All American Clothing is pretty strictly... well I guess the word is "normcore." Reg'lar ol button–downs, reg'lar ol trousers, jeans, etc, all union–made in the USA, sturdy as fuck, and somehow cheaper than a lot of mainstream brands (made in third–world countries).

Now my socks... I'm sorry, sweatshop kids. I sincerely am. My conscience just can't compete with the needs of my greedy feets. 

 
Posted by Rampop II
3/05/2023 6:06 am
#22

I get the sense that at least some degree of this fashion reporting has to do with the business world hoping to cash in on the next trend and/or or avoid becoming yesterday's news, so they turn to these guys in the same way that investors turn to stock market gurus for predictions. One such crystal ball Business Insider seems obsessed with as of late is the whole "Gen–this," "Gen–that" thing, producing a slew of articles over the past couple of months with titles like:
"I'm a millennial who manages Gen Z workers. The hardest thing about it is dealing with all their 'feelings about work,'"
and:
"Meet Gen Zalpha, the powerful combo generation of teens and 20-somethings who are about to have major spending power." 

Now maybe there's plenty to this. I dunno. It's just funny to me. Gen Zalpha. Is that like the reset of the Mayan calendar? 

 
Posted by Rock
3/05/2023 4:11 pm
#23

I checked out the site for All American Clothing. Alas, their western denim shirt is out of stuck in my size.


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Posted by Jinnistan
3/05/2023 7:31 pm
#24



"Wear what you dig."
 


 
Posted by Rock
3/05/2023 9:35 pm
#25

Wise words from a wise man.


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Posted by Jinnistan
5/06/2023 12:45 pm
#26

Rather than start a thread dedicated to the ongoing writer's strike, I'll just put this here, a good explainer vid that's gone viral this week with Adam Ruins Everything calling out the CNN boss (CEO of Warner/Discovery) for saying that they can't afford to pay writers while personaly pocketing $250 million dollars last year.  That's $250 million dollars for one man over one year.



 


 
Posted by crumbsroom
5/06/2023 1:19 pm
#27

I can't watch that because working at the moment, but it's the absolute shamelessness of these people. These fucks (usually completely talentless beyond their ability to accumulate wealth), make their fortunes off of the labor and the talent of the very people whose work they are in a constant state of devaluing. I have a deep level of hatred towards these people.

Pay your fucking employees properly you cunts!

 
Posted by crumbsroom
5/06/2023 1:26 pm
#28

This all relates to my similar hate of Canadian douche faced staple Galen Weston. After having inherited a huge family fortune from his grocery magnate father, he has tried to play every man in his commercials for years. Like all of these billionaires, he only substantially increased his wealth during the pandemic, but didn't hesitate to jack up all his prices under the ruse of supply chain demand. He had to do it, he tried to explain in a recent ad. The last few years have been hard on everybody, and to prove his allegiance to the worjing class family, agreed to freeze the prices of his lowest quality shit, after he had just jacked them up considerably higher than his worst products had ever been. So, still making gross profit while trying to maintain a guise of empathetic everyman.

Thankfully, most people saw through this and the hostility he received towards his condescension in pretending to understand struggle, was a mild corrective.

But this is still the guy who immediately cut the salaries of all his low tier employees as soon as rhe pandemic was over, while giving himself a raise on top of his next level profits (because, job well done Galen)

These people need to be destroyed

 
Posted by Jinnistan
5/07/2023 11:29 pm
#29

2023 Pattern of DemandsThe Pattern of Demands is a constitutionally-required statement of general objectives for the MBA negotiations. On March 7, 2023, the 2023 Pattern of Demands was approved by WGA members, 98.4% (5,553) voting yes, and 1.6% (90) voting no.COMPENSATION AND RESIDUALS


  • Increase minimum compensation significantly to address the devaluation of writing in all areas of television, new media and features
  • Standardize compensation and residual terms for features whether released theatrically or on streaming
  • Address the abuses of mini-rooms
  • Ensure appropriate television series writing compensation throughout entire process of pre-production, production and post-production
  • Expand span protections to cover all television writers
  • Apply MBA minimums to comedy-variety programs made for new media
  • Increase residuals for under-compensated reuse markets
  • Restrict uncompensated use of excerpts


PENSION PLAN AND HEALTH FUND

  • Increase contributions to Pension Plan and Health Fund


PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS AND PROTECTION IN THE EMPLOYMENT OF WRITERS

  • For feature contracts in which compensation falls below a specified threshold, require weekly payment of compensation and a minimum of two steps.
  • Strengthen regulation of options and exclusivity in television writer employment contracts
  • Regulate use of material produced using artificial intelligence or similar technologies
  • Enact measures to combat discrimination and harassment and to promote pay equity
  • Revise and expand all arbitrator lists


 
Posted by Jinnistan
5/07/2023 11:38 pm
#30

I would also like to address this "mini-room abuse".  Sounds fraught.  Let's get to the bottom of that.


 
Posted by Rock
5/08/2023 12:24 am
#31

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Posted by Jinnistan
5/08/2023 7:12 pm
#32

So it's a way to keep writers' pay at scale.

I've seen some attempts to criticize the WGA by saying that a lot of these new shows, whether on networks or streaming, simply aren't very good anyway so why should these writers deserve more money?  But the double edge there is that maybe these recent shows are not very good precisely because of these newer forms of utilizing writers.  If this trend towards mini-rooms has been keeping pay at scale, then you get what you pay for.

This recent SNL sketch is pretty good.  Some say the joke is the oversaturation of content, but I think it's more about the quality of recent content.  (In any event, the SNL writing continues to generally be atrocious though.)



 


 
Posted by Jinnistan
5/11/2023 6:52 pm
#33

From Vice:

Greg Iwinski, a comedy writer, and member of WGA East Council and the negotiating committee with AMPTP, told Motherboard. “When you have vice presidents of global streaming companies saying, ‘I don’t believe in quality,’ then maybe it doesn’t matter that an AI can’t do something as smart or creative as a person as long as it can crank out the pages.

Wouldn't it be nice if they started naming these goons?  Call them right the fuck out.  It's the corporate entertainment business' equivalent of planned obsolescence, "Enjoy it it now, forgot it later when we reboot it again".

The problem with out current consumerist entertainment environment is that there are a lot of people who don't believe (or at least don't care) about "quality", and in fact many people deride it.

It isn't surprising that people are excited about this over at movieforums: "AI might very well be able to write one of those 'no brainier' movie scripts."  (Exactly what we want!)  "I bet a story writing AI that was created for the task could turn out TV scripts. Especially as there's already input info available to the AI from previous written scripts. It boggles the mind."  (Especially a 'no-brainer' mind!)
 


 
Posted by Jinnistan
5/13/2023 9:40 pm
#34

I think the "I don't believe in quality" quote strikes at the heart of the matter.  These kinds of disputes tend to be framed as 'art vs. commerce', the creatives vs. the business people.  But the heart of the conflict is really quality vs. quantity.  Quantitative minds have a distrust for anything that can't be accounted via predictable calculation.  Entertainment, for them, is a numbers game - box office, ratings, ticket receipts, eyeballs, likes and subscribes.  To them, there is no discernable difference between the Star Wars films.  Star Wars is an identifiable property that has a built-in (predictable) rate of return.  (Would anyone be surprised if we found out that the last Star Wars trilogy was written by A.I.?)  For them, there's confusion why Justice League bombed.  (It had Batman on the poster!!!)  It's worth remembering that the two foundations of the modern blockbuster - Jaws and Star Wars (the Remus and Romulus, so to speak) - were distrusted by the studios that produced them to be anything more than B-movie entertainment, modestly budgeted movies that, at the very least, could always make their profit at the drive-ins if all else fails.  The studios penny-pinched both films, questioned the necessity of key creative decisions, shook their heads in pity at these young directors with their naive heads in the clouds.  Does the shark even work yet?  A walking dog?  There was no proven algorithmic path to success for either project.  Until there was.  And now, in their wake, their success is taken for granted as formula.  The studios didn't then realize the potential in investing in young filmmakers with new bold ideas, they simply demanded the next Jaws, the next Star Wars.  That Barton Fink feeling.  The studio people don't understand why Jaws is so much better than The Last Shark, only that Jaws  made a lot more money.  They didn't green-light the sequels because they failed to understand how dumb they were, they just didn't believe that it made any difference.  Studios don't create formulas, they simply follow them.

And A.I. doesn't create formulas either, only regurgitating mutations of its inputs.  Only someone who doesn't believe (place trust) in "quality" could possibly fail to understand the drain of diminishing returns that this kind of regurgitation foretells.  The studios have been hinting at this for several years now, justifying their endless reboots by saying that "there's only so many stories, and they've all already been told".  That's just another way of saying that they're less willing to invest in new creative ideas.


Technology, by definition, is a tool, to be utilized to aid in human endeavor.  Some A.I. is especially valuable as an analytic tool.  Spell-check and search engines are essentially A.I. programs.  Technology is supposed to help people, not replace them.  A.I. researcher Ben Goertzel had a troubling prediction that A.I. could replace 80% of all jobs.  The problem with that is not only Goertzel's enthusiasm at the prospect, but in the complete indifference to finding new ways to employ this 80% of the current workforce.  "People can find better things to do with their life than work for a living."  Oh?  And how will they afford to do all of these better things?  Because unless you're also proposing a more utopian overthrow of our entire economy (and best of luck), I don't think most people will find abject poverty as a better thing to do with their lives.  And, btw, Goertzel is a cognitive scientist who happens to be the CEO of an A.I. research laboratory, so he apparently enjoys working for a living.  This proposal of selling his product as a means of improving your life ("no more work!!!") is as much a bluff as the so-called "gig economy".  This is another example of how the rich are looking to off-load the bottom-feeding 80% of the population.  ("You'll all be better off!")  More wisdom from Douglas Rushkoff.
 

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Posted by Jinnistan
7/15/2023 12:18 am
#35

Now the Screen Actor Guild has joined in a general work strike, partly in solidarity to the writers' strike but mostly to address almost identical issues involving the studios' intentions of employing A.I. technology to marginalize creative "inputs", we'll see if it results in speeding up the negotiation process for both.  Clearly, actors, being more recognizable celebrities, carry a greater capacity for public sympathy than writers, and threaten to bring far more publicity to the issues being fought over.  The callousness which with the studios have shown to the writers has already been pretty clear - ("We don't believe in 'quality'") - but has been brought into clearer focus with a recent quote from an anonymous insider:

“The endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses,” a studio executive told Deadline. Acknowledging the cold-as-ice approach, several other sources reiterated the statement. One insider called it “a cruel but necessary evil.”

Which seems pretty cruel indeed when considering how the primary writer grievance is that they already do not earn a sufficient living wage.  (Ron Perlman issued a since-deleted retort of "There's lots of ways to lose your house", an unsubtle but righteous incitement.)  In this strategy of "bleeding out" the WGA, the studios have shown no urgency to engage in negotiations over the past 10 weeks, but it seems that the SAG strike could inspire more urgency as it threatens to undermine high-profile promotions for any upcoming releases in this already underwhelming box-office summer season and into the fall awards season.  (It makes one wonder what kind of impact could have been acheived had SAG striked back in May with the writers.)

The most alarming revelation this week concerning the SAG strike is the plan for the studios to secure the 'likeness' rights of actors for potential use as A.I. replicas in the future.  The initial plan involves securing the likeness rights of background actors (extras), but given developments like Bruce Willis recently selling his likeness rights, it isn't hard to see how such "personal release" clauses will begin to be written into standard employment contracts, especially as such clauses have already been standard with participants of reality television for over two decades.  (The phrase "in perpetuity throughout the universe" is always a promising legal proposal.)  They're starting with extras because such actors have the least negotiating power, but the key is to amass such contracts with young actors before they become big enough to negotiate, and within a generation, it isn't hard to see how endemic such "agreements" would become.  Just as with the lame cliche that "all of the stories have already been told", to justify the shift away from new writers and focus on already copyright-owned intellectual properties and plot algorithms, it isn't difficult to see the eventual cliche of "all of the great actors have already existed", and a similar reliance on recycled images of this first century of Hollywood icons.  And then there will be far fewer parties with which the studio executives will be forced to share their profits.  The ultimate question will be whether the American audience, and really the global audience as well, be docile enough to accept such a commercial proposition?

It also isn't surprising that someone like the A/V Club, a media site that never misses an opportunity to salute endowed studio wisdom or to shame anyone insufficiently appreciative of Disney's gift of entertainment, would be championing these kinds of technological "inevitabilities", and G/O Media recently used A/V Club as part of a pilot project to introduce A.I.-written articles on their platforms.  (The G/O editorial director used such appropriately Orwellian language by calling this development "utterly appropriate" - I wish I could write intentional irony so well.)  The G/O tech-oriented site, Gizmodo, which also had A.I. content posted to their site (apparently without their editors' knowledge), had the spine to push back unambiguously.  The website Deadline put it more succintly:

AI-generated journalism is an oxymoron that we cannot allow to take hold among media outlets. Do not click on these stories. Do not give these companies the satisfaction of a click. That traffic cannibalizes the great work done by our overworked members.

 


 
Posted by Jinnistan
7/20/2023 5:24 am
#36

[img]https://thehill.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/07/AP23200723153436-e1689800243851.jpg?resize=876,492[/img]


A day after the WGA and SAG filed a joint lawsuit against NBCUniversal for taking certain illegal steps to hinder the picketing lines outside of their studio, the protesters discovered the above, which is where NBCUniversal decided to shave to the stump all of the trees lining the street outside the studio which had been providing shade for the picket line.  It all looks terribly necessary, doesn't it?

NBCUniversal is claiming that this was simply standard scheduled maintainance that just happened to coincide with the strike.  Which makes sense, because if you do have to completely eliminate shady tree foliage from time to time, you obviously should schedule it for the middle of July during a record-breaking heat wave in Southern California. 

In February, those tree-trimmers would have had to wear shirts or something.

The LA City Comptroller has pointed out that these trees are, in fact, city property and that no permits for scheduled trimming have been issued this year, shortly before announcing an investigation into NBCUniversal.
 


 
Posted by crumbsroom
7/20/2023 5:37 am
#37

It's almost like the studios are the bad guys here.


But let's all whine about how this is all about the entitlement of megarich actors

 
Posted by Jinnistan
7/31/2023 12:43 pm
#38

It's now fairly clear that "Barbieheimmer" was entirely a marketing gimmick intended to compensate for the lack of in-person publicity caused by the SAG strike.  It's also pretty clear (although without seeing it yet) that the satire in Barbie is only, at best, half sincere, and that most ultimately all of the sociocultural commentary was simply window-dressing to cover up a typical, and typically cynical, brand-fetish testament to consumerism.  The fact that the studio has now announced a slate of new movies to flesh out a "Mattel shared universe" leaves that verdict not at all ambiguous.  In short, like it or not, it's exactly the kind of film that the studios want to justify the current IP-fueled strategy that has made these strikes inevitable in the first place.

But still, I'm happy to see the other IP-dependent films in its wake - Haunted Mansion, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Blue Beetle, Meg 2, Equalizer 3 - go down in flames.  In effect, we can consider this year's summer blockbuster season over and done with.  Bootlickers over at AV Club have a new headline "Why Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Will Always Be Relevant".  They can't possibly be getting paid enough to have so little shame and self-respect.
 


 
Posted by Rock
7/31/2023 1:01 pm
#39

I’ll probably watch Barbie at some point (I dunno, it looks fun), but as I’m single and none of the boys want to see it, seeing it in a theatre that’ll likely be full of screaming children seems like a bad idea. I will wait for streaming.


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Posted by Jinnistan
7/31/2023 1:27 pm
#40

I trust Gerwig's intentions were pure, but it's hard to ignore the context of the particular moment.


 


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