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NO WEINERS
Dave didn’t know how to cook anything. Only sometimes came to ask if you wanted wieners those times when he couldn’t wait any longer for Norma to make his lunch for him.
“Hot dogs!”, you would yell at him. “They’re called hot dogs!”
But Dave would always call them wieners. Would stand there cooking them in a cast iron skillet with a little bit of boiling water at the bottom. Stand there holding metal tongs, asking you over and over again if you were hungry for a couple of wieners and that it was easy for him to throw one more into the pan. Just staring at you until you told him no. How that word made you not hungry. That lunch was ruined because of it.
“All I can smell is hot dogs”, you’d tell him. “Everything smells like hotdogs and it’s making me feel sick”
But unperturbed, Dave would then always proceed to eat his assortment of wieners, one after another. Wieners he had piled high with horseradish and sliced pickles and mustard and Cheez Whiz. Wieners he would first put in the micro until they were steaming and hot and disgustingly soft, and that he could then just push into his mouth until they dribbled ketchup down his sleeve. Until his chin was glistening with hot dog water. Until he was constantly burping, he was so full of them.
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THE FINAL WHODUNNIT
What killed Dave? Was it the heart attack as he checked out of the hospital. A result of uttering words too perfect not to be immediately made his final ones by a massive coronary that left him crumpled on the floor.
“Hate doctors. Looove nurses”
Head hitting the tiles but probably already dead by then. A sight Andrea would only later describe as a mess to her nephew, who was on the phone with her, learning for the first time what had happened to his grandfather earlier that day. Hadn’t even known he was in the hospital.
“A total mess. Don’t ask”
Or had it maybe been the previous five days that had killed Dave? Bedridden with a purple face and not taking his heart pills. Not eating anything and no one seeming to think this was a bad sign, even though this was the same Dave who had once still taken his full English breakfast while looking nearly green from appendicitis. The same Dave who would scrape every smudge of egg yolk from his plate, no matter the stomach flu. And now this same man moaning over as little as the sight of soup. Wanting everything to be taken away immediately. No appetite at all and usually half asleep and somehow no one even thinking to let Andrea know what had happened.
“The doctor’s said he suffered a brain bleed at least a week ago. A week ago!”
So maybe it was the fall that had finally done him in. An accident that couldn’t have come as a surprise to anyone, not since his stroke had got him always going down the stairs backwards. No one able to convince him otherwise since it was now the only way he could make sure his good hand stayed firmly ahold of the bannister as he descended them. But a week ago, missing a step and tumbling all the way to the bottom and smashing his face on the corner of a table. Turning his whole face the color of a plum with eyes peering out. Misshapen and thick with blood like an English sausage . A face so bad you couldn’t have looked at it and not immediately known something was seriously wrong.
“And they just put him to bed like that. Didn’t pick up the phone even though I’m just down the goddamned street. Just let him lay there dying. Couldn’t even call. Now, would you explain to me what the hell is wrong with these people?”
Andrea claimed it was Bruce and her mother that were responsible. That it was negligence that ultimately killed her father and wasn’t shy in making this clear to her brother.
But Bruce, when he talked about what had happened later on, didn't agree. Didn’t think there should be any surprise at all about what ultimately killed their father. That it was hate, pure and simple.
“I think Mom finally got her chance and took it. He was bedridden and she just hated him to death”
He talked about how he couldn’t help but think about all that time he was all alone by himself in that bedroom, dying as it turns out, and how it must have finally dawned on him in there that it was no joke. Her hate was real. That she had always meant it and now he was totally fucked.
Bruce shook his head. “Jesus Christ, just imagine being in that situation and only having Mom to save you”
“And you, Bruce. You were there too”
He nodded his head. Didn’t deny he was there, or that he was also to blame, but wanted everyone to remember what had been happening in that house for the last twenty years and how she had been pulling that same shit right up until the end. How even when her husband was sick and dying she couldn’t help herself, still talking to him in nothing but that weird voice of hers. The one that made her talk like a baby. That she would use whenever she was calling her idiot husband a useless son of a bitch.
Only now she didn’t have to go all around the house hunting for him like a crazy person. She knew exactly where to find him. Went in there bugging him dozens of times a day, standing at the foot of his bed saying the most horrible things to him. Whatever she could think of to make sure he knew how much she hated him. Like making sure he knew how disgusting his bruised purple face was to her and how stupid it looked with his white hair sticking up on top. That it was uncombed and that he should be ashamed. That he looked like a thousand year old clown. That he was a do nothing asshole and he should get out of bed already. Going in and out of his room all day long, leaving for a few minutes, and then coming right back in to say the same things to him all over again. And all Dave could do as he lay there was moan and refuse his soup and feebly try to wave her away.
“If you want to know what killed him, that’s what killed him. The fact that his wife was such a mean, miserable bitch”
“And because you didn’t call me”
Yes, that too, he admitted. Of course, of course. He never denied it. But as usual Andrea was completely missing the point of what he was trying to say and didn’t know what the fuck she was talking about. Bruce didn't even know why he was trying to explain it to her. She hadn’t lived in the house for so long, but pretended everything was like how she left it forty years ago. Wouldn’t believe their mother ever meant any of the things she had said.
“It’s not like she actually hated him, Bruce. Not really. Who could have hated dad?”
He had given her a good life, after all. She had nothing to complain about.
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HEAVEN STYLE
When I was too young to remember it my grandfather's hair was thick and jet black like that of a suntanning Greek. There were lots of old pictures of him from back when they used to take photographs of each other. Those days when he kept it combed back and shiny with oily things he’d squeeze out of tubes. Tubes you could still find in his bathroom drawer long after it had stopped being fashionable to use them. Rolled down and sticky even years later. A smell trapped inside that drawer that had not been young for a long long time but was what a much younger grandfather had once smelled like. A drawer that would also be full of other things he still used like shaving cream and razor blades, that I would sometimes open for no reason at all. That I would need to quickly wash my fingers clean of if I ever mistakenly touched anything inside of it.
No, I never knew a grandfather who had hair quite like that.
Instead, the one I remember was already starting to go grey. No longer slicking it down and combing it back like some Mediterranean matinee idol. Now sporting a soft tuft of clean and neatly kept hair that he would sit for many hours at a time just patting, gazing off at something no one else could see, as if hypnotized by the feel of it. Touching it gently like an animal he hoped to remain good friends with. Thinking the whole world must have been terribly jealous of his good luck to have such good genes. To have such a full head of it so late into life. Sometimes even daring to say how his most recent haircut, even when it was greyed and less impressive than it had once been in its prime, was the talk of the whole neighbourhood. Not necessarily bragging to anyone in particular, but saying it anyways.
And not even as it grew whiter and whiter over the years did his pride in it dim. Not even when he started coming home from the barber’s with it looking almost blue because, as my father so delicately revealed, he was getting them to put old lady rinse in it to keep the yellow out.
“Just like some old bitch in On the Buses”, he would laugh. “Innit marvelous?”
And while maybe it was no longer exactly the hair my grandfather hoped to have waiting for him in heaven when he finally got there, he’d still take it over whatever was waiting for everyone else.
Because they were all just jealous.
Every last one of them.
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JAMAICAN ICEBERG
There have been claims made that they didn’t always hate each other like this. Family members old enough to remember them doing things together. Enjoying the company of one another. Talking in normal voices. Even went to Jamaica one time and spent twenty dollars to travel in a glass bottom boat. Something they only did because of Norma’s insistence, having grown tired of spending all of their free time sitting on the beach. Kept bringing up how that was something she'd like to do, even though she secretly worried the hull might shatter and let in all that warm water and drown everyone on board. Had been told by another tourist that the captain of the boat couldn’t even swim. Could already imagine those white helmets of the crew floating on the surface of the ocean. Cameras sinking to its bottom.
“But if I left it up to Dave we wouldn’t have done anything at all while we were there, so I had to be brave”
Everyone knew how Dave was. How he needed little else beyond his lawnchair and a cloudless sky and for it to finally be summer to be completely happy. Maybe some sunglasses for his big head to bend the arms out of shape, or a John La Carre book to read for the third time, but nothing else was needed. And so Jamaica, for him, was hardly necessary.
But for Norma it was different. Norma wanted more. Norma wanted everything.
“When they were younger, they did things. They would talk. She was always trying to get him to bring her places, but you know Dave, he’d really rather just sit in the car. And so eventually....”
No one was denying that they were always very different from each other but, no, there didn't used to be so much hate. Didn't hate eachother, at all. Sometimes you would even come across a photograph of them laughing and eating dinner together. Drinking rum and pineapple juice out of coconut shells. Pictures from long ago when Norma still smoked and where she could be seen holding court over a group of friends with a cigarette between her fingers, her husband watching, looking like he might almost have been listening to what she was saying.
“Norma just thought she deserved a more exciting life than he gave her”
And so we talked of that time they went to Jamaica. When it didn’t seem so strange for them to do something like that, but all of us knowing that was a long time ago and how they hadn’t gone anywhere in years. Dave still with the same lawnchair and Norma never getting to see England again after all. Nothing left for her to do but watch her husband spread out under the sun in the backyard, year after year. Watching him grow darker and darker with every summer, almost as if he had just returned from travelling the continent of Africa without her. Watching him out there ruining yet another pair of her sunglasses, reading that book about spies he had already read a thousand times before. And Norma no longer thinking of England at all. Not really even remembering it anymore. Only seeing one thing clearly now that they were old and there was nothing left to think about.
“Of course she hates him, now. It’s become her whole reason for being, now. Now she’s a complete bitch. I’m just saying you have to remember, it wasn’t always this way”
And we all agreed. Everyone remembered Jamaica. Norma saying the word bomboclaat for the first time and Dave tanned more than ever and how they almost used to like each other. All of us talking about how those were the good days as the smoke from tonights burning dinner filled the house. Got us barely able to see each other in a room at the other side of the house. All of us laughing anyways at how Dave was going to get the blackest pork chop of all.
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And this is the shit I'm dealing with at movieforums
I'm a Christian, but even looking at it through an objective lens (and YES that is possible), it still is a standout religion because there's a truth there that doesn't exist in the other Abrahamic religions and certainly not in the other world's religions that I know of. Christianity is built upon the precept that we all sinners from the beginning and there is no sin that is to great NOT to be washed away and cleansed by the blood of Christ.
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Here's an objective truth - Most Christians happen to be massive hypocrities. The truth of this can be objectively discerned by reading some of what Jesus said about things like "pride", "making a show of your prayer", "casting stones", etc etc. How does he wash away sin? Forgiveness? Mercy?
But Jesus was also a broke Jew pussy, so what does he know?
Aptly, I just saw this clip from Douglas Rushkoff yesterday where he touches on this problem of fundamentalist zealotry which has infected all of these Abrahamic religions:
Douglas Rushkoff wrote:
This literalism kills the interpretive dimensionality of a spiritual tradition as surely as scientism and materialism kills the humanities. When we set things down in stone, when we lock down their ownership, assign them monetary value, make them material and absolute truths to defend, we lose the liminal, creative living human layers. To hold anything with absolute and permanent certainty, we have to kill it. And then we start killing other people too.
But Rushkoff, like Jesus, is just a filthy commie Jew too.
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Jinnistan wrote:
Here's an objective truth - Most Christians happen to be massive hypocrities. The truth of this can be objectively discerned by reading some of what Jesus said about things like "pride", "making a show of your prayer", "casting stones", etc etc. How does he wash away sin? Forgiveness? Mercy?
But Jesus was also a broke Jew pussy, so what does he know?
Aptly, I just saw this clip from Douglas Rushkoff yesterday where he touches on this problem of fundamentalist zealotry which has infected all of these Abrahamic religions:
Douglas Rushkoff wrote:
This literalism kills the interpretive dimensionality of a spiritual tradition as surely as scientism and materialism kills the humanities. When we set things down in stone, when we lock down their ownership, assign them monetary value, make them material and absolute truths to defend, we lose the liminal, creative living human layers. To hold anything with absolute and permanent certainty, we have to kill it. And then we start killing other people too.
But Rushkoff, like Jesus, is just a filthy commie Jew too.
Just the pride alone in submitting that your OBJECTIVE reasoning for Christianity's superiority is....Christ's blood? Well, go ahead and gobble it all down, you heathens. And of course Yoda probably is in complete agreement, so that post will be allowed to stand because Yoda can also OBJECTIVELY determine which political posts are a step too far (and of course I doubt he even views that the supposed observable betterness of Christianity as even being a political point in the first place...you have to consider the possibility that other religions, or no religions at all, are even a consideration to do that)
But how can we possibly contest? They are just calling balls and strikes there, fellows. Or so this fucking cock poster is inclined to say whenever he's defending his more insistent points that movies he doesn't like (almost always due to political elements he takes issue with). You know, boring bon mots that One Battle is left wing propoganda, or that people only pretend to like Jeanne Dielman because a lesbian feminist made it. Or that people who swear are inherently dumber, inarticulate, lowest common denominator people. Not like this fuck brain idiot who loves Parasite because he claims it is a 'pro capitalist' film, even though he also claims the director is too stupid to even know it.
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crumbsroom wrote:
Just the pride alone in submitting that your OBJECTIVE reasoning for Christianity's superiority is....Christ's blood?
Which gets into the contentious area of metaphorical and abstract interpretation. What is this "blood" exactly? Well, frequently since the graphically sanguine Passion of the Christ, many Christians see it more literally as the fleshy suffering of his corporeal persecution - even though Jesus himself, in several passages across the gospels, minimizes the suffering of the flesh as of any consequence whatsoever. No, in Jesus' esoteric terms, this "blood" is a vitality which transcends flesh, it is an essence which is eternal outside of carnal existence. And it is a spirit of mercy and humility which is lost on many of these so-proud Christians who feel the need to dominate their faith, as the person you quoted insisted.
crumbsroom wrote:
And of course Yoda probably is in complete agreement, so that post will be allowed to stand because Yoda can also OBJECTIVELY determine which political posts are a step too far (and of course I doubt he even views that the supposed observable betterness of Christianity as even being a political point in the first place...you have to consider the possibility that other religions, or no religions at all, are even a consideration to do that)
This is becoming less and less defensible. Even sincere Christians have to recognize the currency of the religiously-infused culture wars underway. To act like these are not expressions of religious-supremacy, at a time when America has just unilaterally struck a Muslim country with some explicit "Crusade" overtones from several of our top-ranking officials, from Hegseth to Huckabee, it is disingenuous to act like these are not inherently political expressions. I would say the same about the jihadists on 9/11. This is not about religious relativism. This is a fundamentally political issue.
crumbsroom wrote:
One Battle is left wing propaganda
I will allow so much that PTA intended OBAA to be a decidedly pro-immigrant statement. Which, for the record, also happens to be the authentically doctrinal Christian position on immigration. (Quite objectively, in fact.)
crumbsroom wrote:
people only pretend to like Jeanne Dielman because a lesbian feminist made it.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that maybe this poster only pretends to hate Jeanne Dielman because a lesbian feminist made it.
crumbsroom wrote:
Not like this fuck brain idiot who loves Parasite because he claims it is a 'pro capitalist' film, even though he also claims the director is too stupid to even know it.
Well that is.....something.
But slaves never know how good they have it until White Jesus tells them so. Wait, what was that about "the last will be the first", like some kind of reversal, like maybe that's what all of these desperately dominant Romans are scared of? "Just keep 'em in your basement", they pray and fret.
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GENEROUS NORMA
Norma doesn’t care what you think, she’ll go through your garbage anyways. Too many good things to pass up. Her hands unafraid to reach into trashcans without even looking. Has a sixth sense for old egg cartons that she can mix her paints in. Fingers scrambling in that sticky, sharp blackness, grabbing all these other things that should never have been thrown out in the first place. Things she can’t just leave there once she’s got a good grip on them. All sorts of useful things she might one day find a use for. Sometimes even birthday gifts down at the bottom. Pulling on handfuls of doll hair and finding heads attached. Knotted bits of twine she can spend all evening unknotting and the occasional bent nail she claims is very nearly completely straight. Then there are the broken picture frames, the chipped coffee mugs with other people's names on them and the Christmas ornaments that have been thrown up by cats. Endless piles of magazines without covers and no end of books she says she doesn’t want to read but thinks maybe somebody else will. That she can keep inside a dresser drawer by the front door so she will always have something to offer departing guests. Handing them these books that smell like the things the neighbours eat. Giving off whiffs of sausage grease or pasta sauce or spoiled milk as she flips through them to show how the pages aren’t falling out. That this one has an interesting article in it. That she’s heard good things about this book. First come first serve, she says.
Unless you’re not much of a reader.
Now, even if that’s the case, she still might have something for you. Maybe instead you’d like some new clothes to bring home with you. Everyone needs clothes. If you’d just give her a second, she’s got a bag in the closet. Says there are all sorts of really nice shirts in there. Also nice pants. Levis. All kinds of good things for the little ones too, and if you didn’t have to leave that exact second, she'll drag it out for you. A bag full of stuff that didn’t fit anyone here but might fit you.
“If they’re your size, take as much as you like”, she’d tell whoever was trying to leave as she shook the bag out onto a large table in the front hall. “IF you need to, you can go in the bathroom and try them on. Sometimes you can’t tell just by looking. But there’s good stuff in there”.
It would be on nights like these, as the sun was beginning to set and the air was cool, that one after another of Norma’s friends could always seen dashing madly to their cars after dinner was over. The lucky ones would be empty handed. But those who were too polite to keep swatting away whatever she kept handing them would be clutching all sorts of trash to their chests as they emerged through the front door. Barely able to manage their getaway without dropping something on the lawn as they cut across it to their cars. And Generous Norma always coming up right behind them. Able to pick up what they’d dropped and make sure they didn't forget it. Run after them waving a pair of stone washed and pleated jeans over her head.
Definitely not Levi’s.
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INTERNATIONAL REFRIGERATOR OF MYSTERY
Dave.
International Man of Mystery.
Every morning he would put on a suit after eating his breakfast, but no one thought much of where he went in it.
Something to do with refrigerators.
Maybe microwaves.
It didn’t seem to matter.
Instead everyone was mostly concerned with the fingerprints he’d left in the butter dish.
Back when he was still in his pajamas and there was still butter clinging to his thumb and he would have looked ludicrous carrying a briefcase with him anywhere.
Back before he got dressed.
Before he drove off to go be somebody’s boss.
Off to a job every morning where any details beyond his secretary telling him what a nice head of hair he had were hard to come by.
Completely unknowable.
Barely there.
Not like anyone was asking.
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Hair butter. I'd try it. Smell delicious. Rub toast on my head at lunchtime. I can't believe it's not Pomade.