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Also, conspiracy time, sign me up as someone who is extremely skeptical about those Tyler Robinson texts with his trans partner. This isn't to say he wasn't operating as a person violently opposed to Kirk's anti trans world view, or hadn't rejected his families conservatism, but those texts absolutely reek of being AI generated
And yet I believe these texts were provided by his trans-partner, who is cooperating. So I don't know. I'm still inclined generally to think that this is part of a new phenomenon of opportunist violence. I also believe this was already established with the Butler PN shooter as well, as someone without really any definite political convictions but looking at the schedule, who's coming to town, and taking advantage. I seem to remember hearing that the Butler shooter also googled possible Biden events in the area during the same time. I may even propose that these shootings, blank slate, may have been decided before a target was even determined, and only after the fact rationalized. That's my gut take. And it follows with this feeble-ass Dallas ICE shooter, who managed to only kill the people he was purportedly trying to protect, while background investigation revealed that the guy's contacts, both online and irl, tellingly claimed that he had no political leanings at all. The politics seem to be beside from the point, which is the simple act of killing for attention.
My own conspiratorial fetish with the Kirk situation is with this George Zinn, aka "the decoy". Not that I think there's anything to it, necessarily. But it's strange. Weird people are strange. Some old dude decides he wants to take credit for shooting Charlie Kirk, even though he doesn't have a gun, but he does have a phone full of child porn. Like maybe you wouldn't want to make so much commotion with a pocketful of child porn, but there he is, with his pants down. And then I read from some person that because he eventually got arrested for the child porn on his phone, that effectively blocked reporters from being able to further ask him any questions about what he was doing there in the first place. Again, maybe just some crazy guy. I'm just saying. Strange.
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And yet I believe these texts were provided by his trans-partner, who is cooperating. So I don't know.
Then I think the trans-partner generated these texts through ChatGPT, for whatever reason (maybe to illustrate they had nothing to do with the shooting? who knows). And while I don't think it is impossible that this was a real life discussion, it's going to take a lot of convicing to get me to believe anyone talks like the way they talk in that text (I've heard the possibilitiy he is autistic, so maaaaaybe, but even that explanation doesn't seem to completely satisfy me)
I have no issue with accepting whatever motive or lack of motive led to Kirk's killing. I'm not here really even giving a shit which 'team' ultimately gets blames by the media or the courts or the president. I'll let the pundits argue over that and score whatever political points they want, because that's just the stupid world we live in now. I'm just exclusively skeptical of those specific exchanges being made by real life human people.
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But I did want to give a brief example, before the media attention span moves on, of the typical kind of tolerant amusement with which Jeffery Epstein's rich friends celebrated his lifestyle.
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I wish it was feature length though.
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I wish it was feature length though.
Wasn't it glorious, though! The Onion really outdid themselves. I thought the trailer was a joke. God damn this was good! 🤣
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Maybe CNN should define what plenary authority is to its viewers. Or, I don't know, have a follow up question when a member of the Trump administration mistakenly declares it on live television.
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Wasn't it glorious, though!
Speaking for myself, I could have used 20% more penis goofin'.
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Maybe CNN should define what plenary authority is to its viewers. Or, I don't know, have a follow up question when a member of the Trump administration mistakenly declares it on live television.
I'll offer a little primer here, just in case anyone has similar confusions as the CNN audience.
Hopefully, someone informs the Supreme Court as well, before they decide that maybe the president does have plenary authority to invade American cities after all. Much like they decided to invent the president's constitutional immunity or their current erosion of judicial review authorities generally. (Mother Jones' Pema Levy is one of the sharpest journalists covering SCOTUS right now.)
I guess I haven't talked so much about Stephen Miller in this thread yet. There's lots of good summaries of Miller around lately, like this Rolling Stone piece from last month, or the NYT, or The Nation, or a couple others from the Guardian. And there's a new book out, unsubtley titled Hate Monger, which gets deep into Miller's background as a student in school who worshipped Rush Limbaugh and who used to gleefully harass Hispanics in his midst. I've grown weary of a lot of theories around a so-called "shadow president", becuase we've already seen so many - from Steve Bannon, Jared Kushner, Elon Musk, etc - which seemed to fizzle out whenever they brushed too closely against Trump's fragile ego. But with Miller, it's safer enough to suggest that, officially as the Deputy Chief of Staff, he is unofficially the true shadow Secretary of Homeland Security, and the fingerprints of his ideology are all over the DHS' militarization.
There are still many people who hold the presumption that it's anathama that a Jewish person could be a white supremacist or a Nazi-admiring fascist. Remember that old Chris Rock joke about the white guy who was a member of a black street gang, and about how that white guy was the most dangerous one of them all? "No telling what he had to do to earn the others' respect." That's how we should feel about the Jew who plays in Neo-Nazi circles. Whether it's Stephen Miller or Laura Loomer, Curtis Yarvin or Chaya Raichik, the Jewish Nazis just might be the scariest of them all.
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Wasn't it glorious, though!
Speaking for myself, I could have used 20% more penis goofin'.
One of my favorite moments.
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Maybe CNN should define what plenary authority is to its viewers. Or, I don't know, have a follow up question when a member of the Trump administration mistakenly declares it on live television.
Reminds me of another recent exchange, at Trump’s so-called “Antifa roundtable” last Wednesday:
Reporter: “Mister President, have you given any more thought to possibly suspending habeas corpus, to not only deal with these insurrectionists across the nation but also to continue rapidly deporting illegal aliens?”
Trump: “Yeah, uh… suspending who?”
Reporter: “Uh, habeas corpus, sir.”
Trump: “Oh, I don’t know. I’d rather leave that to Kristi. What do you think?”
Noem: “No, sir, I haven’t been a part of any discussions on that.”
Well that’s hardly comforting when we recap… to quote mediaite’s coverage of Noem’s confirmation hearing back in May:
Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH) grilled Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem during a Tuesday Senate hearing over the possibility of President Donald Trump suspending habeas corpus to continue mass deportations without due process, something his top aide Stephen Miller has suggested doing.
[hey, deja vu]
“So, Secretary Noem, what is habeas corpus?” Hassan began her line of questioning.
“Well, habeas corpus is a constitutional right that the president has to be able to remove people from this country and suspend their right to–” Noem replied as Hassan jumped in to clarify.
“Let me stop you, ma’am,” Hassan said as Noem continued.
“Habeas corpus, excuse me, that’s, that’s incorrect,” Hassan declared as Noem insisted that “President Lincoln used it.”
“Excuse me, habeas corpus is the legal principle that requires that the government provide a public reason for detaining and imprisoning people,” Hassan explained…
“Yeah, I support habeas corpus. I also recognize that the President of the United States has the authority under the Constitution to decide if it should be suspended or not.“
Well that was a “circular transfer,” bababoom.
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Oh, back to the real life horrors,
I think the main Mamdani moment of desperation had to be Bill Maher a couple of weeks back trying to make some kind of a connection with Zohran's Ugandan birth with a wild correlation with Uganda's treatment of homosexuals. Does Bill believe that Mamdani wants to implement Ugandan-style gay executions in New York City? Does anyone expect anyone to believe this? So what's the problem? Oh, Maher is simply demanding that Mamdani should revoke his dual-citizenship with Uganda? Thirst and panic.
And then we get this Brooklyn Imam, Siraj Wahhaj, who appeared with Mamdani at a campaign event. The call him an "unindicted co-conspirator" in the 1993 WTC bombings. "Unindicted", so he didn't do anything wrong? Cooperated with the investigation? And has also cooperated with the NYPD to shut down drug houses across Brooklyn for decades? Kind of a local public figure? This is supposed to concern me?
And thanks Nancy, for glazing Dick Cheney into heaven. That's a nice touch.
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I guess we don't know exactly how this is going to work out with Trump directing his Department of Justice to pay him out some $230 million. Any judge want to look at that? Judges have overturned corrupt settlements before, so it's not entirely fantasy, but I'm a little discouraged by the lack of effort. Hey, let's say this works out for Trump, and he can basically dictate to his former personal lawyer who is now responsible for making any such DoJ settlement, how long do you think it will take before the marquee cue lines up with.....I dunno....Rudy Giuliani, Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro, Charles Kushner, Changpeng Zhao, Sam Bankman-Fried, maybe even Miss Ghislaine. Wouldn't that be lovely? A little stroll through the vodka-ice statues. Hell, Elon, you got any public debts you feel were a bit too burdensome? Just sign the checks. Anyone think this isn't going to be a menu item in the new ballroom?
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A lot of people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as a bunch of unconnected incidents and things. They don't realize that there's this lattice of coincidence that lays on top of everything. Give you an example; show you what I mean: suppose you're thinking about a plate of shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in looking for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.
Everybody's into weirdness right here.