MAGA's Hangover and America's Walk of Shame

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Posted by Jinnistan
1/17/2025 6:51 pm
#1

Who the fuck did we wake up with this morning?

Exactly who you thought it was a good idea to take home last night.

And now the rationalizations for our bad judgment are rolling in.  Jon Stewart already told us that most of the post-election takes would be bullshit, but even with that buffer, it's still quite callusing to witness all of the Trump apologism, from all political corners, generally for each one's respective benefit.  Leftists want the "told you so" narrative, and Republicans are desperate to distract from the brazen amounts of racist red meat thrown to the masses that they clearly do not respect.  (I don't respect them either, come to think of it.)  Both of these sides have combined with the centrist corporate media, who is also very desperate to avoid acknowledging the third rails of racism and Christian Nationalism, to form this bullshit theory that basically this all boils down to the price of eggs.  This nonsense was recently demonstrated by some dweeb named Scott Galloway (who apparently, according to my sources, did not create Dilbert?).  Look at this cunt on Morning Joe:

We are in the midst of a series of small revolutions to correct income inequality.  And the reason we put an insurrectionist and a rapist in office is because, for the first time in our nation’s history, a 30-year-old man or woman isn’t doing as well as his or his or her parents were at third.  Why?  Because the majority of households are having the oxygen sucked out of the room such that a small number of individuals and a small number of companies can be worth more than nation-states.  Income inequality is out of control.  Our tax policy has gone full oligarch.

Well, I'm pleased to see some kind of ackowledgment of wealth inequality on corporate cable news, but just think about this logic for more than a couple of seconds, and it starts to look like the kind of masochistic gaslighting so common in much of this post-election commentary.  "The reason" why Trump won?  Is because people are mad about the oligarchy?  That he's putting in his cabinet?  Are these people so stupid that they failed to notice that the day one agenda in the MAGA Congress is to make the oligarchy's tax cuts permanent?  (And may even cut corporate taxes further?)  Which is exactly what Trump said he was going to do?  What he ran on?  That voters presumably heard with their ears and brains?  We're supposed to believe this?

I mean, maybe he's right.  People are stupid.  People are petty.  Maybe Americans thought, "We should really teach these Democrats a lesson by voting for the exact people who are going to realize our worst fears."  After all, this seems to be the rationale for those accelerationist Leftists who chose not to vote for Kamala because of Gaza, regardless of the fact that Trump's policies present a far more horrific scenario for Gazans.  In some kind of twisted, deranged fashion, this strategy apparently appealed to ...(*looks it up*)... approximately 4% of the Democratic voting block?  Well, gee, that'll teach 'em, alright.  Meanwhile they can continue to "told you so" over the slaughter.  Win-win!

The same with the response to Biden's farewell address.  I understand.  There's a lot of frustration and anger out there which needs to be funnelled somewhere, and. let's face it, Democrats are a safe target because they don't have ethnonationalist militias to shoot beer or harass department store clerks.  But when Biden warns us about this rising "oligarchy" - the very same oligarchy which voters think Trump will save them from - you get these whiny little hackysack bitches talking about, "About time!  Why didn't you do anything about this before?"  Probably because you're stupid.  You're asking questions when you should be reading the answers.  Biden's Federal Trade Commission waged regulatory lawsuits against all of the major Big Tech media corporations for a variety of monopolistic violations - Google, Apple, Amazon and Meta.  Elon Musk is still wrestling with Biden's SEC over stock market manipulation.  Biden's DoJ was investigating the A.I. RealPage rent price-fixing software.  The question isn't "What has Biden done against the oligarchy?", but rather "where the fuck have you been?"  TikTok, I imagine.  But now that that Trump's back in office - because you sat out the election cosplaying intifada - all of these efforts are going to the wayside.  And I bet you'll still just feel like you were right all along.  You'll throw soup on art you have not the talent to create, for what?  Climate Change?  And then thow away all of our green energy advancements of the last few years because of what?  The Houthis?  I bet that'll make a mean tattoo.

So I don't want to hear it.  You let us down.  You let yourself down, but are just too tender to admit it.  Don't try to pin the blame on me, or try to act like it was some kind of failure of nerve on the part of those of us who did vote.  And who hasn't been playing this demoralizing game of pretending that there's no substantial difference between these choices.

And you racist cunts over there, don't even get me started.  You have no right to start acting like you care about the economy or the oligarchy, when I don't see one goddamn protest over these tax cuts.  No, you care about not having immigrants living next door, or not having drag queens in your libraries.  Those were the two primary motivating factors in this election.  Like Chris Christie said, what was the most effective political ad of the season?  "Kamala stands with They & Them; Trump stands with Us."  So you don't get to retro-apply some veneer of populist virtue onto that.  You know what you did, and you're all going to Hell.  Does Hell exist?  Of course not.  Let me be clear - you're all going to die with hate in your hearts, on your faces.  Your death with be an orgy of fear, pity and anger because you did not heal your soul.  Charitably, I won't be there when it happens.

I still refuse to respect people who voted for Trump, because I don't find their motives to be respectable.  I don't respect those who chose to sit the election out, for the same reason.  You both inflicted harm on this country just to prove a point, and it wasn't even salient.  You turned your back on decency.  Shame's too good for you.  Lord help you don't get what you truly deserve.

Now go walk it off.


 
Posted by crumbsroom
1/17/2025 10:18 pm
#2

I think I got maybe two thirds of the way through the first Trump term before I realized I could no longer pretend that those who still supported the man were defensible in any way.

If I lived in America, I imagine a modest swath of my family would have voted for him this time around, and while I'm not going to freeze them out of my life for being stupid fuckheads, the idea that I can have any respect for these people ever again is pretty much shot.

It's not a grey area. Supporting this man, whether it is because you actually support him, or you just couldn't be bothered to figure out why you shouldn't, is and will be continue to be harmful to everyone on this planet for probably a very long time. Possibly the rest of our lives.

Fuck all of them. Fuck all of them.
 

 
Posted by Jinnistan
1/18/2025 10:16 am
#3

crumbsroom wrote:

If I lived in America, I imagine a modest swath of my family would have voted for him this time around, and while I'm not going to freeze them out of my life for being stupid fuckheads, the idea that I can have any respect for these people ever again is pretty much shot.

Over Christmas, my uncle unironically used the phrase "Adam and Steve".  It's kind of charming in a dark sort of way.


 
Posted by Jinnistan
1/18/2025 10:24 am
#4

I see where Splinter, the banally annoying news site, has the headline "Biden's Legacy Is the End of American and Democratic Institutional Legitimacy".  These are the same guys who thought it was a good idea to impeach Biden before the election, you know, to help Kamala win.  Like Cenk Uygur, they seem kind of enthusiastic about their defeatism.  In ten years, they'll be hanging with Tim Pool.

These are exactly the types of people who are unwilling or incapable of walking it off.

Beware this self-pity, because it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.  These thumbsucking dipshits are not allies.
 


 
Posted by Jinnistan
1/22/2025 11:05 pm
#5



 


 
Posted by Jinnistan
1/23/2025 3:50 pm
#6




It's somehow less offensive that Elon Musk - richest man in the world are arguably most powerful in America - gave a rather unambiguous Nazi salute at our new president's inaugural rally than it is that there's a large segment of the right-wing not only trying to deny what we can all plainly see but are trying to act like they are the ones deeply offended by the mere suggestion that Musk is doing what it is he is clearly doing in the photo above, "lying eyes" be damned as dogs.  I mean, look at the schmuck.  He seems to be pretty emphatic about the gesture, biting lip n'all, like he was superdetermined that there would be no mystery about it.  He even repeated the gesture a second time just in case.  Even worse, some are accusing our foul spectacles of enabling ableism, because Musk is simply having an Asperger's moment, which is mighty woke of them.  "Oh, he's obviously just sending his heart out to the crowd."  It's a total coincidence that the official Nazi salute involves the right hand extended from over the heart to upstretched palm.




And perhaps my favorite excuse is that "Elon Musk can't be a Nazi because he loves Israel".  Unfortunately, antisemitism isn't always a necessary qualification for fascism, and we can definitely identify fascists among the Israeli settler-terrorists currently enjoying favor in Netanyahu's cabinet.  Maybe this is why the ADL has come to Musk's defense, not because they don't recognize what they clearly see, but that they don't wish to upset the imminent permission from the new administration to allow the continued violence from these settler-terrorists against the current inconvenient residents of 'Greater Israel'.

Of course none of that means that Musk isn't actually antisemitic anyway, but that, currently, his xenophobic focus happens to lie elsewhere,with the browner immigrants currently invading the porcelaine-pure climes of white civilization, openly giving support to neo-fascist groups in Germany (AfD) and Britain (the English Defense League), which have in common a rabid anti-immigrant position (specifically of the Muslim variety) and a pro-Putin stance.  You know, Putin?  That guy that Musk is frequently in contact with, that story which somehow did not become a scandal in the US news media despite Musk being Trump's primary political donor?

The authoritarian inclination, and specifially of the eugenics variety, has not been a silent aspect of the rising political dominance of the Big Tech billionaire class.  From Peter Thiel's anti-democratic technocracy to "Effective Altruism"'s eugenic futurism, it should be clear what the vision entails and that these superrich individuals have the power and influence to feel entitled to make it happen.  Elon Musk's purported "anti-wokism" is part and parcel of these same movements and sentiments.  And he now has a White House office to design its implementation with the full backing of a recently unleashed similarly authoriarian-bent President billionaire who shares these sentiments of genetic power.

American news media still seems willing to give a good faith presumption of innocence to the right-wing sophists trying to deny and distract from their agenda.  They also denied Project 2025, remember?, until they didn't.  Or denied that those Jan. 6 rioters convincted of felonious assault wouldn't be pardoned?  Unitl they were.  Who do we trust in these confusion times?  Maybe start with our eyes?
 


 
Posted by crumbsroom
1/23/2025 5:47 pm
#7

It was 100% meant as a Nazi salute. And it was 100% always intended for him to deny that it was a Nazi salute, and have him gripe that Hitler comparisons are such a lazy response from the woke mob.

This is the kind of 3D chess Elon Musk is playing at.

Clearly billionaires need some fucking hobbies.
 

 
Posted by crumbsroom
1/23/2025 5:54 pm
#8

I also definitely know that the whole plot began with Elon wondering aloud: "You know what would be really badass...."

 
Posted by crumbsroom
1/23/2025 6:01 pm
#9

At this point, I can only solemnly nod as I realize my decision not to become a heroin addict was extremely short sighted.

 
Posted by Rock
1/23/2025 6:07 pm
#10

crumbsroom wrote:

It was 100% meant as a Nazi salute. And it was 100% always intended for him to deny that it was a Nazi salute, and have him gripe that Hitler comparisons are such a lazy response from the woke mob.

This is the kind of 3D chess Elon Musk is playing at.

Clearly billionaires need some fucking hobbies.
 

I think the guy from Blackberry who cashed out and fucked off forever had the right idea. I promise to do the same if I ever strike it rich.


I am not above abusing mod powers for my own amusement.
 
Posted by crumbsroom
1/23/2025 6:20 pm
#11

Rock wrote:

crumbsroom wrote:

It was 100% meant as a Nazi salute. And it was 100% always intended for him to deny that it was a Nazi salute, and have him gripe that Hitler comparisons are such a lazy response from the woke mob.

This is the kind of 3D chess Elon Musk is playing at.

Clearly billionaires need some fucking hobbies.
 

I think the guy from Blackberry who cashed out and fucked off forever had the right idea. I promise to do the same if I ever strike it rich.

What drives me insane is, why wouldn't everyone? Fucking off and disappearing and doing something private that matters to you and that isn't anyone elses business should be all that matters. But then cunts like Musk just keep grinding for more money, more attention....the levels of pathetic is almost impossible for me to grasp.

And yes, I get that I have about a thousand dollars in my account and he has billions, but compared to me that guy is deeply, deeply lame and a total failure.

 
Posted by Jinnistan
1/30/2025 8:49 pm
#12

Recently, no doubt inspired by Elon Musk's shenanigans and the denialism behind it, there's been a Jean-Paul Sartre quote which has been circulating regarding the "absurdity" of the sophism used by such deniers, and while it's perfectly appropriate to use the quote in this context of antisemitism, I find that it's also perfectly appropriate across the spectrum of fascist denialism and defensiveness, and really the entire 'post-truth' troll lexicon of logical deformities which are employed to abuse those who still dare to recognize logical and linguistic consistentcy.

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

In MAGA America, truth is far less of a virtue than 'winning', and despite all of the ill-conceived post-election "post-mortems", the central misunderstanding is that anyone who voted for Trump is capable of being persuaded not to.  The fact is that they are not willing.  They do not careCaring, in fact, has become a liability.  Or, to paraphrase Trump's mentor Roy Cohn, it is an advantage not to care.  Fascism is inherently a sociopathic ideology, and as long as we continue to deny what fascism even means, we are unable to understand that "the time for argument is past".
 


 
Posted by Jinnistan
2/05/2025 8:57 pm
#13

So I guess we're all sitting around waiting for anyone to ask the obvious question....

Does anyone seriously think that Elon Musk is too mature to dump the private banking information of his critics on a ring of Russian identity thieves?  Asking for a friend....
 


 
Posted by crumbsroom
2/05/2025 9:53 pm
#14

Jinnistan wrote:

So I guess we're all sitting around waiting for anyone to ask the obvious question....

Does anyone seriously think that Elon Musk is too mature to dump the private banking information of his critics on a ring of Russian identity thieves?  Asking for a friend....
 

This Musk/Treasury situation is just so unbelievably horrifying I'm incapable of talking about it.

The rage over how this could even happen.

The horror of how far reaching it's implications  could be.

My complete acceptance of how this would be considered totally acceptable by the Republican Party.
 

 
Posted by Jinnistan
2/05/2025 11:11 pm
#15

crumbsroom wrote:

The rage over how this could even happen.

Of course, and unfortunately, a lot of the rage is directed at the non-existent resistance from the Democratic party.  I mean, we knew a lot of what was going to happen.  They wrote a 900-page book about it (Project 2025).  Democrats should have already had their lawyers standing ready on day one.  Like how the ACLU was able to shut down the birthright citizenship order in one day.  But Congress has the power of the purse, and congressional Dems should have filed suit last week to force an injunction against Musk over the Treasury, as soon as Trump's own acting secretary resigned in protest over it, because Musk is an unelected, unconfirmed "special"* leader of a fake agency which Congress did not create.  Instead, it looks like the Dems - or at least the purported leadership - are taking the strategy of standing back and letting Trump embarrass himself....because that's worked before!  Look at this bitch Chuck Schumer (whom I'm inclined to remind is as much a tech oligarch stooge as Trump) trying to old man troll with this "stop the steal" bill for something which is already illegal.  These cunts still think this is a game.  Chuck's on X telling people "just wait until prices go up", instead of trying to do anything to stop all of that, because he wants to score "told you so" points.  You know how valuable "told you so" points are?  I'm currently sitting on a goddamn Fort Knox of "told you so" points from all of those folks who refused to vote for Kamala because she's complicit in genocide, and all I keep getting is stubbed toes.

*it is quite something that Trump got his 'classified docs' case thrown out over constitutional issues over whether the "special counsel", as an unelected and unconfirmed executive officer, can be legitimately appointed.  No such worries over a "special government employee" though!  But consistency and integrity are for suckers, not closers.


 
Posted by crumbsroom
2/05/2025 11:13 pm
#16

Jinnistan wrote:

crumbsroom wrote:

The rage over how this could even happen.

Of course, and unfortunately, a lot of the rage is directed at the non-existent resistence from the Democratic party.  I mean, we knew a lot of what was going to happen.  They wrote a 900-page book about it (Project 2025).  Democrats should have already had their lawyers standing ready on day one.  Like how the ACLU was able to shut down the birthright citizenship order in one day.  But Congress has the power of the purse, and congressional Dems should have filed suit last week to force an injunction against Musk, an unelected, unconfirmed "special" leader of a fake agency which Congress did not create.  Instead, it looks like the Dems - or at least the purported leadership - are taking the strategy of standing back and letting Trump embarrass himself....because that's worked before!  Look at this bitch Chuck Schumer (whom I'm inclined to remind is as much a tech oligarch stooge as Trump) trying to old man troll with this "stop the steal" bill for something which is already illegal.  These cunts still think this is a game.  Chuck's on X telling people "just wait until prices go up", instead of trying to do anything to stop all of that, because he wants to score "told you so" points.  You know how valuable "told you so" points are?  I'm currently sitting on a goddamn Fort Knox of "told you so" points from all of those folks who refused to vote for Kamala because she's complicit in genocide, and all I keep getting is stubbed toes.

Exactly.

The rage.
 

 
Posted by Jinnistan
2/08/2025 7:08 pm
#17

There are still quite a few voices in our mainstream media who are feigning ambiguity over the issue of the legality of Elon Musk's recent moves to essentially commandeer the entire IT system of the federal government (as well as entire wings of several government buildings) while also invoking a right to absolute secrecy about exactly what he's doing with it.  In the interest of some clarity, a rundown of the whirlwind of this past week's Musk intrusions and explanations for why, in fact, most of these moves are very unambiguously illegal.  Still, very little in the way of legal action from Congress, so we have to rely on public interest groups like CREW, federal employee unions and state attorney generals instead to take up the slack.  And no telling on the damage done in the meantime, but there has been some success, including just today in a rare weekend injunction.  Again, for clarity, a rundown on the ongoing legal timeline.

And for insight into Elon's psychology and character, here's Kara Swisher, the tech press' best no-nonsense shit-talker.




 


 
Posted by Rampop II
2/09/2025 4:34 am
#18

In case anyone (like me) remains reluctant to submit to the paywall for the Washington Post owned by Jeff Bezos, and therefore cannot access the WaPo article “Here are the words putting science in the crosshairs of Trump’s orders,” I’m posting some screenshots shared by clinical psychologist USC psych professor Darby Saxbe, listing words that can get a research grant flagged and cancelled, even ones that have already been approved:
...
Oh FOR FUCK'S SAKE it didn't work and this is why I don't post here more often. Computers stress me the fuck out anyway and this shit after going to the trouble to copy the images, send them to myself, download them onto my computer, log into imgbb, upload each one, then agonize over whether to copy/paste "viewer links" or "direct links" or "HTML image" or... Just here's the fucking link goddammit, at least I remember how to do that:
https://bsky.app/profile/darbysaxbe.bsky.social/post/3lhcvn4hxwk2o
As Saxbe rightly points out,
These keywords could show up in the text of ANY grant involving human participants. If you say you're going to study men and women, you get flagged. If you say you're going to control for socioeconomic status - totally standard practice - you get flagged. Disability? Flagged.

The word "systemic" is on the banned list, so if I study systemic inflammation & health, flagged. If I study political science, flagged. If I study trauma, flagged. Keep in mind that the largest mental health provider in the country is the Veteran's Administration, but we can't study trauma now?

…You can't design a study of humans without using at least one of the terms on the banned list, which means that biomedical, brain, social science research is now on ice in the USA.


...I can't remember how to put quotes in their own little fucking square either, so I just put Saxby's words in red. I'm sure I took note of all this code shit at some point but can't remember where I put the note. 1½ hrs of my time. Good night, America. I mean Canada, since we yanks are about to become the 11th—60th provinces. Yay, free health care! Maybe now we'll finally learn how to use the metric system. 

 
Posted by Rampop II
2/09/2025 6:15 am
#19

Rampop II wrote:

In case anyone (like me) remains reluctant to submit to the paywall for the Washington Post owned by Jeff Bezos, and therefore cannot access the WaPo article “Here are the words putting science in the crosshairs of Trump’s orders,” I’m posting some screenshots shared by clinical psychologist USC psych professor Darby Saxbe, listing words that can get a research grant flagged and cancelled, even ones that have already been approved:
...
Oh FOR FUCK'S SAKE it didn't work and this is why I don't post here more often. Computers stress me the fuck out anyway and this shit after going to the trouble to copy the images, send them to myself, download them onto my computer, log into imgbb, upload each one, then agonize over whether to copy/paste "viewer links" or "direct links" or "HTML image" or... Just here's the fucking link goddammit, at least I remember how to do that:
https://bsky.app/profile/darbysaxbe.bsky.social/post/3lhcvn4hxwk2o
As Saxbe rightly points out,
These keywords could show up in the text of ANY grant involving human participants. If you say you're going to study men and women, you get flagged. If you say you're going to control for socioeconomic status - totally standard practice - you get flagged. Disability? Flagged.

The word "systemic" is on the banned list, so if I study systemic inflammation & health, flagged. If I study political science, flagged. If I study trauma, flagged. Keep in mind that the largest mental health provider in the country is the Veteran's Administration, but we can't study trauma now?

…You can't design a study of humans without using at least one of the terms on the banned list, which means that biomedical, brain, social science research is now on ice in the USA.


...I can't remember how to put quotes in their own little fucking square either, so I just put Saxby's words in red. I'm sure I took note of all this code shit at some point but can't remember where I put the note. 1½ hrs of my time. Good night, America. I mean Canada, since we yanks are about to become the 11th—60th provinces. Yay, free health care! Maybe now we'll finally learn how to use the metric system. 



 
Posted by Jinnistan
2/10/2025 4:50 pm
#20

"you won't make it"

That's an old Rotten Tomatoes joke.

It's going to be four years, dude.  Relax.  Breathe.  Pace....

And check this out for some tips.
 


 


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