Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/04/2024 3:31 pm | #1 |
(approximate depiction)
1984 was a year destined for starlust on the innocuous and precocious among us. Even our pre-Orwellian brains could sense something imminent, something definitive. In 1984, I was still entangled in my Starlog subscription, my parent's divorce, my first Commodore 64 computer (which I failed to fly), my first access to VHS cassette recorders. There was a crisis on infinite earths. I was choosing my own adventures.
I think I can sum up the entire year in a single Johnny Carson joke. At this year's summit between Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev, to discuss many things including the saturated spectre of nuclear arms and their consequences, Gorbachev casually asked Reagan about his opinion concerning another concern, acid rain, "How do you feel about this?" To which Reagan responded, "I think Prince is a musical genius".
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/04/2024 3:53 pm | #2 |
Alas the cold winter in which 1984 announced its arrival. Since Wiki has failed me, I will be using the Box Office Mojo movie release calender. There were apparently no new releases in the first week of January...a sordid omen. The second week? In the days before our dear Martin Luther King had received officious recognition? Two Films: Hot Dog: The Movie and Angel ("Molly, a high schooler, secretly earns her living as Angel, a street prostitute whose only family and friends are the ones she works with on the streets. She has to survive against a serial killer who is targeting people of her profession.")
To this day, I have seen neither. I will only proceed to discuss those films that I did, in fact, see, either in a very dark theater or under a very grainy VCR tracking.
Nay these lonely days, there were only two films released in January 1984 that I would eventually watch, probably both on cable:
Being a child of divorce adds a certain layer onto these kinds of films which indulge in the myriad mishaps of relationship difficulties. It's not particularly optimistic. If this had not been Steve Martin, I'm sure I wouldn't have bothered with it, perhaps put it aside to appreciate at a more mature and meaningful age where the fragility of affection wasn't an existential anxiety. But basically, I didn't get it, and I was bored. At this age, I preferred something like Modern Problems, because I could relate to that level of spite and self-pity and cartoonish self-abuse. Nowadays, I prefer Brooks' Modern Romance, a keen compromise between the two indulgences.
I'm not even going to include Woody Allen's Broadway Danny Rose here because it would be several more years before I see that one.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/04/2024 4:12 pm | #3 |
Sexual obsession is a very 1984 thing, which was true well beyond whatever Freudian inconveniences I happened to be undergoing. It isn't difficult to discern in the pop culture media of the time, from the 'horny voyeur' sex comedies to the pop songs like "Every Breath You Take", "I'll Wait" to "Relax". Here's a film I would watch later in the same year on video, as I was a fan of Dudley Moore and I was intrigued with Nastassja Kinski. But, again like with Modern Problems, the comedic material veers into some pretty dark places for my lamb-like mind, getting gritty into the green jelly and murder and whatnot and all kinds of sexual power implications that I certainly was incapable of understanding outside of being pretty sure that it was a power that I did not yet fully possess. I wasn't really sure why I liked the debasement either.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/04/2024 4:30 pm | #4 |
Here's more of a mainstream sensation, and seems to be the first new film of note that I watched in the theater that year. It's hard not to assume what everyone knows about it. It's kinda dumb, but rebellious, in that way that the 80s tended to perversely reflect the 50s. (ala Back to the Future a year later) The soundtrack sold like white cakes, I had the cassette. But I was really only enamoured with "Holding Out For a Hero". Kevin Bacon, frankly, always seemed a little skeezy, and in his better later roles he would use that to his advantage. And what else? Lithgow? Solid heavy. Our school class wanted to do a field trip to watch this thing, and I made the very unpopular suggestion of going to the Rick Springfield movie instead. I have no idea which is worse.
(I'm sure I've seen Tom Selleck's Lassiter in some medium, but I have no reliable memory of anything that happened in it.)
Now here's a more, um, seminal.... Alright, you have to understand that we're talking about a very sensitive twilight age here. I found this film to be very exciting at the time. I could identify with Michael Caine's awkwardness but in a completely different ethical context. The film has clearly not aged very well. Indeed, nowadays it's the friend, Demi Moore, that we'd rather bump into on the beach. But I will extend one gracious hand to Joseph Bologna, who I still find incredibly funny here, and along with the same era's My Favorite Year was having quite a moment at the time.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/04/2024 4:47 pm | #5 |
Before you start judging, I want to reiterate, I'm not just picking all of the sexy films here. Clearly films were just more sexy then. And one benefit of being a child of divorce, if we can count it, is that it becomes much easier to coerce your dad into letting you watch these kinds of 'R' rated movies. All of that aside even, this is a good movie. A top-notch quality neo-noir in league with Body Heat, with an ultimate unctuous James Woods slipping around the tide pools.
I wasn't averse to watching these kinds of films at the time. Paul Newman is, and was, the same compelling icon across generations, even if this film was a smaller affair, one of his few self-directed efforts. I didn't particularly care for it, however, because the film does have a certain conservative sheen to it, and Robby Benson is a simply a dunce Travolta, tbh. So again I'll just fall back on only really being fond of the scene where Benson is seduced by an older Judith Ivey.
(Repo Man and This Is Spinal Tap were also released this week, and what a double feature that would have made! But in both cases, I don't believe I saw either until at least a year or two later.)
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/04/2024 4:59 pm | #6 |
I'm like, "what are they doing to me?" Oh, yeah. What if? Some beautiful mermaid just happens upon your doorstep? *Splash* indeed. Tom Hanks has always made for a consummate virginal surrogate, which we can also see in Man With the One Red Shoe and, more obviously, in Big. That latter film makes a lot more sense considering how he provided the role as 'adult stand-in' for hundreds of teen boys on the cusp in these days. I never made it out to the theater to see this one (if I remember correctly, it was a bit of a sleeper), but it was one of the year's biggest video successes. I watched it a few years back and it's very silly, sometimes in good ways, sometimes just in silly ways.
I was only starting to get into reading Stephen King at around this time, but this is one of those foundational horror films where I could quite confidently say that if it failed to scare a single hair on my skin then it must be a complete failure as a horror film. Just garbage. After reading the story sometime later, I felt like this could have been a slow-burn classic, but, as is the case, these execs don't trust the audiences' patience, so they have to frontload everything. In a way, this film was very educational in my early horror viewing.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/04/2024 5:24 pm | #7 |
Watched in a theater, and loved it. Some of the sexual stuff went over my head, but not as much as you think. It's just a lot of fun. I haven't had a whole lot of interest in revisiting this one. Just to see how lame it really was? Not interested.
This is a more interesting miltary film from the Reagan era which, rather than jingoistic, is more anti-authoritarian. Although conservative in its way, an old-school sense of American justice, it proves admirably liberal on cultural issues in the US South. I remember it being very funny, and Garner is always charming.
And then this, which completely demolishes any distinction between political coherence. I did find this funny at the time, but haven't bothered to watch any of the films in over 30 years. I will say that, although the Blue Oyster bit is based on the 80s notorious gay panic, I don't see it as homophobic. It's just a good gag.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/04/2024 5:33 pm | #8 |
I watched this one in a theater, and I think the experience has greatly aided my appreciation of the film. I can more objectively pinpoint the various flaws in the film now, but the sumptuous jungle cinematography is a very difficult thing to underestimate on the big screen. During the first half of the film, I was completely transfixed.
And this also has some impressive jungle photography (this time in Colombia), and is generally a lot more fun, but not as immersive as Greystoke's best sequences. Outside of that, this is clearly the superior film and theater experience, with a large crowd. This is the kind of chemistry that Hollywood only rarely manages to get right.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/04/2024 6:45 pm | #9 |
This is the Rick Springfield film I mentioned earlier. I saw it in the theater, may have been the only one there. I was watching a lot of MTV around this time too. Anyway, sexy girls, and Debra Winger-lookalikes. I haven't seen it since.
I actually watched this one a couple of months ago, because it popped up on Netflix. One of my favorite Robin Williams films. It's not very funny, more of a romantic drama for him, but it's a warm and easygoing film, and Robin is exuding everything about himself that makes him a stand-out emotional presence onscreen. Director Paul Mazursky doesn't land quite as high on the list of New Hollywood auteurs, but he's an interesting filmmaker, and had a good run in the 80s with this, his version of the Tempest, Down and Out in Beverley Hills, Enemies a Love Story and I'm that one guy who really likes Scenes From a Mall.
This is a film that I really only watched because it starred Jason Presson, one of the actors from Explorers. It's a fine film, fine acting, and Presson would almost immediately drop out of the Hollywood child star rat race from here on out. And good for him. The main legacy of this film is showing why he didn't have to prove anything else.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/04/2024 6:57 pm | #10 |
Wanted to like, but never found it very engaging. Tried an adult rewatch about 20 years back, but it still stalled.
Very eye-opening film at the time as an appreciation of the value of shit as a commodity, but more so as a tale of underdogs against behemoth agricultural bullies, this film is unfortunately a forgotten but quite subversive little tale. And Scott Schwartz (The Toy, A Christmas Story) has his finest little Jimmy Stewart moment.
I've always respected Jamie Lee Curtis as a tremendous actress.
Posted by Rock ![]() 6/04/2024 7:20 pm | #11 |
Lonely Guy I found suffered next to Reiner’s other movies but I did like Charles Grodin.
Blame it on Rio I have not seen. I have seen the porn parody Blame it on Ginger. Not good, but Ginger Lynn doesn’t do much for me.
Against All Odds I liked a lot. Was a bit surprised it didn’t have a stellar reputation. Bridges, Ward and especially Woods make it a winner IMO.
Splash I have not seen, but I do like Bachelor Party from the same year. Hope that makes an appearance.
Tank is pretty baffling but Garner‘s classic Hollywood charm keeps it watchable.
Police Academy I found pretty inoffensive. Not a favourite, but I think the cast is pretty likeable.
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Posted by crumbsroom ![]() 6/04/2024 8:41 pm | #12 |
That Kidco movie looks so familiar. Like something I probably watched a hundred times one summer, and never thought of again.
Kind of like Six Pack, with Kenny Rogers. Doesn't that movie even exist anymore? Sadly, that was 1982, so no chance of existing here either.
Never seen Splash or Against All Odds or Footloose.
Police Academy was an 8 year old laugh riot. I have not revisted it since I was probably about ten. Man, did I ever love it though.
I liked Ice Pirates more when I revisted it about five or six years ago, than I did when I was a kid.
Posted by Rock ![]() 6/04/2024 9:14 pm | #13 |
Btw, are these any movies from the year or just what you want to see at the time? In any case, enjoying this so far.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/05/2024 2:08 pm | #14 |
Rock wrote:
I do like Bachelor Party from the same year. Hope that makes an appearance.
Rock wrote:
Btw, are these any movies from the year or just what you want to see at the time?
I'm trying to keep it to the films I watched that year, in either theater, video or cable formats. I can't always remember exactly when I watched some of the films on video or cable, so I'm trying to approximate around the year. I do remember that I first watched Bachelor Party on cable in the summer of '85, which I think I might consider close enough to qualify.
Rock wrote:
Tank is pretty baffling
Curious to hear why.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/05/2024 2:15 pm | #15 |
crumbsroom wrote:
That Kidco movie looks so familiar. Like something I probably watched a hundred times one summer, and never thought of again.
I watched it a handful of times on cable at the time. Pretty good movie about a group of kids trying to squeeze into the manure business.
crumbsroom wrote:
Kind of like Six Pack, with Kenny Rogers.
lol, I did see that one in the theater though.
crumbsroom wrote:
Never seen Splash or Against All Odds or Footloose.
Trust Rock on this one, Against All Odds is the shit.
crumbsroom wrote:
I liked Ice Pirates more when I revisted it about five or six years ago, than I did when I was a kid.
I did burn a copy when it played on TCM (!) about eight years ago, but I didn't pay attention to it at the time. I probably should.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/05/2024 2:35 pm | #16 |
Saw this in the theater. I'm still a fan. I think that what modern audiences miss in their moral calibration is that, despite whatever ethical issues that may arise, what the film is completely lacking is any sense of malice. I don't think that's a small distinction. It's still, behind maybe Fast Times and The Outsiders, one of the more empathetic teenager films of the 80s.
I have to admit to not taking "hip hop" very seriously in these nascent days, seeing it more as a novelty, party music, although I did have this cassette and some other adjacent contemporaries like Midnight Star and Gap Band. The film was OK, I guess, it was mostly about the scene than plot, but I'm willing to bet that it's outpaced Footloose in watchability.
I still think this might be the best version of the Mutiny on the Bounty story. I was down for any Mel Gibson post-Road Warrior, and the deep bench cast included Daniel Day-Lewis and Liam Neeson, neither of whom I was yet familiar. I was familiar with Anthony Hopkins from Elephant Man and Magic, but I hadn't quite placed him in the 'GOAT' caste yet.
I hate to include this. Through an older brother, I was able to see these kinds of videos at the time, but they were always disappointing even in the meager service they were supposed to provide. The eye-candy was fleeting, they were never very sexy, and the protagonists were invariably frat-boy douchebags.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/05/2024 2:48 pm | #17 |
Here's one that's not even listed on any of the film calendars for the year, probably because it never got a wide release, but it was pretty widely available on VHS. Now, I'm not going to call this a good movie or anything. In fact, it stinks. But I will hold it aloft against Hardbodies and its ilk as an example of a film that, while not very good at all, still manages to be sexy enough to entice a not-quite-10-year-old. Let's face it, Sybil Danning is cat-fire, and she's probably a much better actress than the career which leaned into her sultry side would otherwise suggest. And this is the kind of film, I have to note, even though it's technically an 'R", is exactly the kind of film that is really only suitable for horny not-quite-10-year-olds, because that's exactly the psychological space inhabited by our idiot male protagonist. I mean, even by high school, you're looking at this thinking, "the fuck is this dork?" Sybil? Darling? On behalf of us dorks....
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/05/2024 3:04 pm | #18 |
Much like Children of the Corn, these early Stephen King viewings were far more helpful in learning what not to do when making movies, and how some films seem to be inexplicably more dull than even the subject matter would suggest.
Another theater watch. This is a film which has become an epitome of 80s crowd-pleasing blockbuster, but, honestly, I don't care. I think it's a fine motion picture, however corny it can get at times, however golden its magic hour hues, however manipulative that confessedly rousing finale beams with all of the slow-mo sparks and fireworks. Even in my cynical age, I hold an inner Wilfred Brimley which watches in silent stoutly stoic admiration.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 6/05/2024 3:19 pm | #19 |
I think we can all remember where we were in the young summer of '84 when we sat in our theater seats and all wondered aloud: "Did we walk in the wrong theater?" Ah, but no. Just a little patience, and we'll find that, for whatever reason, this sequel to the baddest-ass adventure film of all time decided to open with a superlame musical number. The film would get better, with caveats. "Willie" is no "Marion" in terms of the kind of ideal broad who can carry her own. I didn't mind Short Round as much as some heathens. I appreciated the amped up darkness and violence. But it was perhaps inevitable, as I remember the Starlog review mentioning, the film lacked the original's "magic".
I remember our school would get these flimsy little newsletters every month, and the last month of the school year had a little note about this film coming out, which included an illustration of Kirk and Co. walking around with phasers out asking aloud, "Spock, where are you?" He's dead, Jim, is the obvious answer for anyone who bothered to watch its predecessor. So it was something of a disappointment when the actual film was far closer to this cartoon drawn by someone who clearly was not a Star Trek fan. Not that the film was that bad. It was OK. Christopher Lloyd's Klingon was fun. I'm pretty sure no one even remembers who replaced Kirstie Alley at this point. The fetish of destroying the beloved Enterprise was at an all time high. Honestly, everything about it screamed what we would come to call "fan service". Unsurprisingly it would soon become one of the more forgettable films in the series.
Posted by crumbsroom ![]() 6/05/2024 5:54 pm | #20 |
Jinnistan wrote:
lol, I did see that one in the theater though.
I wanted to, but no one would bring me because it wasn't good enough for them. They were too busy bringing me to On The Right Track....and Under the Rainbow....and Hardly Working....and Zapped.