Posted by Rampop II ![]() 1/22/2023 3:05 am | #1 |
Go nuts!
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Posted by Rampop II ![]() 1/22/2023 4:10 am | #2 |
Gary Oldman as Captain Ahab
No other actor I can think of could handle the role imo, with the exception of Daniel Day Lewis. I might let Dafoe audition, but he'd better bring his AAA game and show me something deeper than he's ever shown before, and yes, that includes The Lighthouse.
A Tale of two Cities directed by Martin Scorsese
Hey, violence and religion, baby. I think I first got this idea from the chapter titled The Grindstone, which is particularly suspenseful and gruesome. Another tense chapter, an early turning point called Monseigneur in Town, I think Scorsese would nail it.
Enemy of the People
I just think this tale is absolutely perfect for our time. The public vilification of an unbiased (and socially awkward) health official for trying to sound the alarm over a looming threat. I dare say this one NEEDS to happen.
The problem with so–called classics imo is that people are scared of them, cowed by the weight of their prestige, and when a novel like Moby Dick or Tale of Two Cities does get a film adaptation it's almost invariably shite. BBC productions suck all the life out of them, and Hollywood productions, hell, they apparently don't even bother to read the goddamned book. One Melville enthusiast told me that a movie of Moby Dick could never hope to do the novel justice because there are just too many stories in it, and I do see her point. But that Gregory Peck turd was unforgivable. Surely studio politics takes a toll, but I think the ultimate killer is that these fuckers forget to LOVE the novels they're adapting. If they can't fall in love with the novel's beauty, what's left but the fear of the novel's prestige? Or the play's prestige, in the case of Ibsen. Grow a pair, folks.
Maybe, as Crumbsroom suggests, the camera should be given to a Canadian crew.
But enough prestige.
"Start Prayin’!"
Tommy Chong as the cop in the short film The Harder They Don't Come, featured in 1983's Still Smoking
While Canadian actor Tommy Chong is well–known for his stoner biker character Chong, I think he's most hilarious in his "serious" characters like Sargent Stadanko and El Nebuloso.
In 2003, Chong's home was raided under the direction of U.S. Attorney General John "Let the Eagle Soar" Ashcroft, in a case of entrapment and undue harshness clearly intended to convey an anti–drug "tough on crime" message to the American public by incarcerating a popular champion of dope culture, despite Chong's not having been much of a high–profile sensation for decades. It was a despicable injustice and Chong served time, all because his son's bong company had been entrapped into shipping some merchandise to a state that forbade it. Chong was pissed. He held Ashcroft personally responsible and he detailed the experience in his book The i-Chong. Fun fact, his celly was Jordan Belfort.
Maybe the moment has passed, or maybe that thought is just self–doubt. I think Tommy Chong should have his revenge on John Ashcroft... by playing John Ashcroft. Lampoon the pants off his ass, roast him to charcoal, make a mockery of this man who is himself a mockery of a man. Chong has been trying for some time to rekindle the old Cheech & Chong fire, and making direct–to–video stoner movies over the past couple of decades that have been far from inspired. I think this is a role Tommy Chong could really sink his teeth into and relish. If I had his ear I would make the case to him myself. Do this. Show no mercy. Let that eagle soar.
And given Mister Chong's age, he'd better let it soar pretty soon.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 1/22/2023 7:15 am | #3 |
Posted by Rampop II ![]() 1/23/2023 5:59 am | #4 |
Oh, we can do that, Lionel.
Strictly speaking, the idea was movies we'd like to see, not movies we'd like to star in, but ay, I'm sure we can put in a call to the local stable. I bet they'll even throw in some chickens. We'll call it Water Pollo.
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 1/23/2023 6:22 am | #5 |
Not star in. I want to watch. Lord help me I'll watch.
Posted by Rampop II ![]() 1/23/2023 6:50 am | #6 |
Posted by Rampop II ![]() 1/25/2023 8:33 am | #7 |
Lest y’all think we jest, I actually do have not one but three original ideas that would indeed go there. Not really porn by definition in the prurient sense, but maybe “porn adjacent” in the graphic sense. It’s unlikely the average porndog will be inspired to rub one out to them. They’re more like porno comedy. I’d be a fool to not solicit Rock’s expert knowledge with respect to these ideas. But I’ll come back to those…
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What I have for you today is a twisted comedy about a second–rate con artist who gets in over his head by starting a religious cult. He’s a would–be L. Ron Hubbard but with less competence and worse luck. If you imagine a comical version of the events detailed in Wild Wild Country, you’ve got the idea. I envision the con-man being played by Jack Black, but that’s negotiable. Anyway…
Episode 1: We meet our guy, we’ll just call him Bernie until we give him a better name, a common unprincipled 2-bit schemer, ducking creditors, maybe ducking divorce papers and child support as well, chronically trying to pull a fast one for leniency or a free lunch, subsisting from one petty scam to the next. But today he’s gonna have one of those “epiphany from a tv behind the bar” moments. He’s halfway through his beer when a tv broadcast reports on a multi–billion dollar religious cult that’s been committing large–scale fraud with impunity. Judging from the report, somebody’s in deep shit, but that’s not important. Bernie sees dollar signs. He leaves the bar with pep in his step. Maybe he even leaves a tip. A pittance, but a tip nonetheless, something notably out–of–character, judging by the bartender’s reaction.
Episode 2: The ol’ “going–into–business” scenario. Dead ends, humiliations, ups/downs, frustrations, etc, as he tries to formulate his plan and get his idea off the ground, all while continuing to duck and dodge creditors and lawyers. At the end of the episode, and of course when all seems hopeless, he scores his first convert. I’m thinking it’s a half–fried street druggie who’s given to falling for most anything with a mystical or conspiratorial essence. Regardless, now Bernie's got his first loyal minion.
Episode 3: The seed takes root. Now they are two, soon they are four, etc., From disheveled to groomed, from humble gathering spots to more respectable–looking digs, from bathrobe shaman to cheap suit guru, from a handful of gullible followers to a modest congregation. He continues to refine his techniques, employing all the common cult paraphernalia to mystify prospective devotees and converts: spiked punch, smoke and mirrors, chimes and incense, absurd initiation rituals, arbitrary sources of divination, divulgence of deep personal secrets, sexual exploitation, ranks and levels of devotees, and the core ingredient: the initiates’ own expectations of finding what they seek. So it doesn’t matter that his skills as a charlatan are second–rate at best, because those who come to him already want to believe.
Episode 4: Success. Lord Bernie, Messiah, Savior, Benevolent Master of the New Metaphysical Universe, rules in decadent luxury, atop an elaborate social order, a multi–tiered pyramid of levels, sorted by dress codes, varied freedoms of movement, from the most anointed disciples down to the menial ranks of the hitherto not–yet enlightened. In his new greatness, he now gains fame, mingles with social elites, and nets followers of ever–increasing stature and wealth, each in turn lending more credibility, leading to bigger and bigger fish. Yachts, private islands, suckin and fuckin as far as the eye can see. Detractors are easily silenced. And now, one of his most important converts enters the scene. Beaming wide–eyed, devout, and ever–so willing, this will be his Ma Anand Sheela, who will rise in ranks, gain his favor, and make herself indispensable to him…
Episode 5: We’ll call her Khlamydia for now. She rapidly ascends to the Machiavellian position as his unofficial second–in command, handling the business and managing the cult’s ever–expanding affairs, all the while playing the loyal subordinate and steadfast devotee. Confident in his faithful servants, Lord Bernie drifts steadily deeper into the haze of decadence, excess and blissful ignorance.
Episode 6: Things spin out–of control. Under the new unofficial leader’s guidance, the temple estate, which has now expanded into a self–governing municipality, gradually takes on the characteristics of a fortified compound. Sinister elements become commonplace, exploitation becomes more severe, friction with neighboring towns turns to hostility, and federal scrutiny bears down.
Episode 7: Finally, as the insanity becomes too evident to ignore, our con–man realizes the seriousness of the situation and tries in vain to put the genie back in the bottle. He’s ensnared at every turn by legal and criminal troubles. Various federal agencies tighten their grip. He’s lost track of finances, he’s being called in for questioning, losing public face, shrinking from view, getting kidnapped, running to authorities, many of whom are now compromised under his church’s influence, attempting to redirect the course of the cult’s dogma, and finally appealing directly to his followers to abandon the cult and think for themselves, to no avail. To them its just another part of his great teachings. And our Machiavellian Khlamydia behind the scenes recognizes it is time to strike.
Episode 8: Coup de Culte. Khlamydia turns the congregation against him. Factions form, gloves come off, points of no return are crossed. Meanwhile the cult’s various outside enemies, including feds, neighboring towns, Christian organizations, defrauded investors, mobsters, drug cartels, estranged family members, and every jaded individual ever wronged in the course of Bernie’s ascent, all finalize their own attack plans.
Episode 9. Civil War. Mayhem descends on the temple grounds from every direction. All hell breaks loose, sky filled with smoke. Loyalists, rebels, mobsters, feds, enraged citizens, many deranged on psychotropics, many more on raw fanaticism, and all armed to the teeth. Carnage! Amid the pandemonium, we find a panicked half–dressed Bernie in his royal chamber, frantically stuffing the proverbial suitcase… of course it’ll be something funnier than a suitcase... plenty of options; this is just a synopsis. In goes cash, jewelry, deeds, titles, offshore accounts, fabergé egg…
Episode 10. Revelation. Picking up where we left off: Bernie finishes packing for his quick getaway as the fighting still rages outside. He makes for the exit, rushing through one great luxuriant hall after another, but he is stopped in his tracks by a vision: An angel appears before him! An angel engulfed in blinding holy radiance! Bernie drops to his knees in breathless repentance, blubbers confessions and begs for forgiveness. Enrapt by the heavenly apparition, he drops what he is carrying, surrendering his material possessions, abandoning his ill–gotten gains, renouncing his carnal shame. Thus cleansed, he rises and walks from the compound, half clothed, dazed, amid the dead and dying and bullets still flying, somehow miraculously undetected by the countless enemies hungry for his head. Nevertheless, he now faces prison, insurmountable debt, the wrath of the underworld, and a backlog of still–unpaid child support. He’s more fucked than when he started. In the final scene, we see Khlamydia with Bernie's suitcase and a wadded–up angel costume. She's preparing to board a jet, or perhaps a ship or a private yacht, but in any case riding off to a life of luxury.
I have to credit Danny Limor with the apparition idea; when I told him this story he proposed that Jesus would appear to Bernie.
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Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 1/25/2023 5:22 pm | #8 |
I want to see those directors that have sunken into tech-obsessed morasses - like Sam Raimi, Peter Jackson, Guillermo del Toro, Robert Rodriguez - forced into some kind of mandatory community service low-budget films where CGI is expressly prohibited. Force them back into their true individual genius, which is economic creativity and innovative resourcefulness.
Let's start with prime offender Tim Burton. Let's compel him to make a true-faith adaptation of Stephen King's Lawnmower Man. No less than 88 minutes, no more than 101. Make it work, Tim, using that old-school imagination that you've allowed to grow dormant.
Posted by Rampop II ![]() 1/25/2023 5:59 pm | #9 |
Jinnistan wrote:
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Let's start with prime offender Tim Burton. Let's compel him to make a true-faith adaptation of Stephen King's Lawnmower Man..
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Tim Burton’s Lawnmower Man!
I would definitely want to see that.
“Mandatory community service” LOL
Posted by Jinnistan ![]() 1/25/2023 6:20 pm | #10 |
Rampop II wrote:
“Mandatory community service” LOL
They must pay for what they've wrought.
Posted by crumbsroom ![]() 1/25/2023 6:42 pm | #11 |
I definitely want a proper adaptation of The Lawnmower Man. But definitely not Tim Burton
Can we resurrect the corpse of Pasolini?
Posted by Rampop II ![]() 1/25/2023 9:32 pm | #12 |
crumbsroom wrote:
I definitely want a proper adaptation of The Lawnmower Man. But definitely not Tim Burton
Can we resurrect the corpse of Pasolini?
Why not both? They'd be stylistically disparate enough, and Burton doing Lawnmower Man is such a hilarious combo I have to stretch my brain to imagine it.
But I can hear Danny Elfman's score accompanying the mower–cam. That alone makes me laugh. It would have to be a comedy.
But let's face it: a faithful adaptation of Lawnmower Man would be a challenge for any filmmaker. It's been decades since I read it so correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't recall Lawnmower Man being a "feature length" kind of story.
Posted by Rampop II ![]() 1/25/2023 9:47 pm | #13 |
First–person perspective from the Lawnmower's POV as it vrooms across the grass to Danny Elfman–style "baroom-pa boomp-pa-oom-pa boomp-pa..." 😆
Posted by Rampop II ![]() 1/28/2023 7:50 am | #14 |
I've thought of a better name for that bitch in the Cult Con Comedy. I hated the name Sheila; it was just a placeholder. I have to work to come up with good character names, and even then they're often just satisfactory. I suffer from Indiana Smith syndrome, but at least I'm aware of it, and I'm trying to work on it.
I'm changing her name to Khlamydia. Way more fitting. We'll see if I still like it tomorrow, but it's better than fucking Sheila. I mean, no offense to the Sheila's of the world, It's a fine name for a regular... a regular Sheila. But this is supposed to be the Cleopatra Jezebel who's gonna snatch an empire from its unsuspecting ruler, we need something a little more exotic, formidable and infectious. I'm gonna edit the post to reflect it.
Posted by crumbsroom ![]() 1/28/2023 12:01 pm | #15 |
Rampop II wrote:
crumbsroom wrote:
I definitely want a proper adaptation of The Lawnmower Man. But definitely not Tim Burton
Can we resurrect the corpse of Pasolini?
Why not both? They'd be stylistically disparate enough, and Burton doing Lawnmower Man is such a hilarious combo I have to stretch my brain to imagine it.
But I can hear Danny Elfman's score accompanying the mower–cam. That alone makes me laugh. It would have to be a comedy.
But let's face it: a faithful adaptation of Lawnmower Man would be a challenge for any filmmaker. It's been decades since I read it so correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't recall Lawnmower Man being a "feature length" kind of story.
It's not much of a story, but it is it's mix of impressionistic strangeness, but rendered so simply (King clearly built the whole story around a single image, ie naked kid crawling around on a lawn and eating grass) that I've always loved it. It's a formative piece of narrative for me, as was Gray Matter from the same collection (man drinks contaminated beer and becomes a blob). Total nonsense but dealt with seriously. Exactly my jam.
It's why I would want a serious director to tackle it. And Pasolini was a very serious director who could also court the grotesque and the unexplainable.
Burton, on the other hand, is like somebody who plays with darkness but always has a fairy tale whimsical buffer to make it palatable. No thanks. And it doesn't help that I find most of his films completely immobile due to the curse of that abundant imagination of his. Nothing escapes it. He form fits everything into this Goth worldview and nothing breathes. Everything suffocates to death on the screen.
Posted by crumbsroom ![]() 1/28/2023 12:03 pm | #16 |
Marco Ferrari could maybe direct Lawnmower Man too. And he could cast a resurrected Michael Piccoli to play the homeowner, who ends up lettting out enormous farts of fear as he recognizes the threat of the boy tending to his lawn.
Michael Piccoli has my very favorite cinematic farts. RIP
Posted by crumbsroom ![]() 1/28/2023 12:04 pm | #17 |
Basically I only want European zombies tending to my terrible Stephen King short story adaptations
Posted by Rock ![]() 1/29/2023 5:48 am | #18 |
Rampop II wrote:
Enemy of the People
I just think this tale is absolutely perfect for our time. The public vilification of an unbiased (and socially awkward) health official for trying to sound the alarm over a looming threat. I dare say this one NEEDS to happen.
There is an adaptation of this by Satyajit Ray from 1989. Well worth a watch. Definitely one of my more timely and infuriating viewings from early in the pandemic.
Posted by Rampop II ![]() 1/30/2023 6:03 am | #19 |
Rock wrote:
Rampop II wrote:
Enemy of the People
I just think this tale is absolutely perfect for our time. The public vilification of an unbiased (and socially awkward) health official for trying to sound the alarm over a looming threat. I dare say this one NEEDS to happen.There is an adaptation of this by Satyajit Ray from 1989. Well worth a watch. Definitely one of my more timely and infuriating viewings from early in the pandemic.
Well then I'm definitely checking that out. Thanks for the rec.
And I'm diggin' that Jesse Green.
Posted by Rampop II ![]() 9/16/2024 8:31 am | #20 |
Just a quick note, I've decided the ending of that old comedy idea about the conman cult leader is way too small–minded, and clichéd as well. It should be another, much larger and more powerful religious cult organization that does the guy in, not just one individual. She's part of a vast entity more akin to Scientology/Mindhead, the SPECTRE of religious cults, a highly–modernized juggernaut of an institution so well–established and with such extensive capabilities that they easily detect and neutralize any would–be competition long before it mounts. They've been up in his shit all along. Ever since he showed up on their radar they've been investigating, infiltrating, manipulating and implicating, leading him by the nose and fattening him for the kill. That's a much better ending.