Posted by Jinnistan  8/04/2022 6:59 pm | #1 |
(Look at this asshole)
This raccoon cunt wants to be Jared Leto. He doesn't have a Jesus Island yet, but like all prodigious messiahs he seems to have plenty of guns and virgins, and some kind of makeshift cult in Iceland which has been noted for its squalor and psychological abuse. "Oh, who the fuck is this?", you may ask. Good question. He's a young actor best known for playing The Flash in recent DC films. Some people only need a little dab of fame before they convince themselves they're god's hot shit. (I'm supposed to use his preferred pronouns of "they", and this isn't some kind of culture war stand on my part, but even though his pronouns best illustrate what I'm convinced is emerging schizophrenia, unlike many other non-binary people I simply don't respect him enough to care to.)
When he isn't assaulting women in Hawaiian bars, he seems to have a hobby of grooming children, using his marginal fame and presumed access to The Machine to promise these young people to "make you into somebody". His vanity rock band (just like Jared!) has shows that advertise that anyone over 21 must be accompanied by a minor, which, well, is...hm. He's the kind of crooked guru who uses LSD for psychological manipulation and submission, the kind who throws tantrums when his will is questioned (hence the guns). The kind of guy who will sometimes hold entire families against their will, and, btw, has been "missing" for two months now as authorities try to track him down.
Business Insider broke the most exhaustive story on this, but unfortunately it's behind their paywall, because this is the kind of hot scoop that you can't just give away for free. If anyone wants to find and copy paste that article here, much obliged. But several of that article's details have been reported elesewhere, and it paints a damning enough picture of this nascent sociopath.
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Posted by crumbsroom 8/05/2022 5:31 pm | #2 |
It always makes me wonder, exactly how hard is it to not be a complete asshole?
Like, I'm a deeply self obsessed, selfish, lazy, cantakerous, anti-social, anti-society prick....but it never is beyond me to take at least a moment to keep myself from being a nightmare to people. And it would just come so naturally. So easy. I could become the best nightmare of all if I just let it happen naturally....but I don't
Now, I admittedly say this knowing full well that if I was had somehow become a famous person in my teens, I absolutey would have been one of these assholes. I needed to learn the hard way my sense of teenage entitlement only went so far before the world would rightfully punch me in the face. If you don't have that, at that age, I can barely imagine the horrors of behavior you might think are acceptable.
But, outside of people who become weirdly famous before their 18th birthday, fuck all these excuses. There are none.. Shits like this should burn because i's not hard not to be a cunt. In fact it is miraculously easy.
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Posted by Jinnistan 8/05/2022 11:06 pm | #3 |
crumbsroom wrote:
It always makes me wonder, exactly how hard is it to not be a complete asshole?
Like, I'm a deeply self obsessed, selfish, lazy, cantakerous, anti-social, anti-society prick....but it never is beyond me to take at least a moment to keep myself from being a nightmare to people. And it would just come so naturally. So easy. I could become the best nightmare of all if I just let it happen naturally....but I don't
Now, I admittedly say this knowing full well that if I was had somehow become a famous person in my teens, I absolutey would have been one of these assholes. I needed to learn the hard way my sense of teenage entitlement only went so far before the world would rightfully punch me in the face. If you don't have that, at that age, I can barely imagine the horrors of behavior you might think are acceptable.
But, outside of people who become weirdly famous before their 18th birthday, fuck all these excuses. There are none.. Shits like this should burn because i's not hard not to be a cunt. In fact it is miraculously easy.
I do firmly believe that fame fries the brain faster than any drug on the market, and there's no shortage of child actors who have suffered its siren song. But the Messianic Complex, probably mixed with a little BPD compulsion to manipulate others (maybe they're the same thing?), does seem to only rarely emerge. Many famous people like to accumulate a cadre of ass-kissers and cock-fluffers, but only an elite few take it into religious dimensions. Tom Cruise is an obvious example - he truly believes that he has a mission to save humanity and also has a parallel and paradoxical habit of verbally abusing his underlings (so I've heard). And Jared Leto is another example of someone who seems to take his fame as permission to be as obnoxious as possible. After all, that Jesus Island shit is real.
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Posted by Jinnistan 8/10/2022 2:04 pm | #4 |
Ezra Miller getting charged for stealing "bottles of alcohol" out of a neighbor's house is probably one of the more boring developments of this entire sage, and oddly seems to be the one where people are starting to think that maybe he might have a problem.
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Posted by Jinnistan 8/17/2022 9:46 pm | #5 |
"Having recently gone through a time of intense crisis, I now understand that I am suffering complex mental health issues and have begun ongoing treatment. I want to apologize to everyone that I have alarmed and upset with my past behavior. I am committed to doing the necessary work to get back to a healthy, safe and productive stage in my life."
He's learning to listen. To his publicists.
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Posted by Jinnistan 10/06/2022 1:02 pm | #6 |
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Posted by crumbsroom 10/06/2022 2:57 pm | #7 |
I'm all for dismantling gender binaries, as they've always been totally restrictive and destructive horseshit, so I know I need to approach this cautiously when I say that of course this fucking cunt demands to be called they. Exactly in the moment that he is acting like a total primadonna douchebag.
Do I know anything at all about how he feels about gender when he's not completely boozed out and in the midst of a manic episode. Nope. But do I have a sneaking suspicion this is all about him wanting to feel like he's too special to be so simply categorized and has very little to do with the rights of trans people. I think I do. I think I suspect he couldn't give a fuck about any 'community' that isn't exclusively populated by him.
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Posted by Jinnistan 10/06/2022 3:18 pm | #8 |
There's a lot of choice quotes here, but a relevant one re: his non-binarism:
A queer associate of Miller’s says, “To me, those are clear instances of manipulation, where it’s like, are you really queer? Or is that just a fun way to marginalize yourself so you can be even shittier to others?”
And to me, it's the behavioral pattern of manipulation that's most at issue. So when Miller is using, um, their "transgender non-binary" status to refuse a pat down from a "man" police officer, or accusing that officer of a hate crime for calling them "sir" - all following an act of violence they (meaning singular Miller) instigated and committed - it does have a flavor of an asshole just trying to get away with something.
I admit, maybe I'm old school on the issue, but I find the "they/them" a little distracting as a reader. When you're talking about accounts involving multiple non-binary people, and "they" keeps coming up, it does require a second or two to calibrate whether or not it pertains to each or all of them. And a couple of times, I'm still not sure. Maybe that's my problem, I dunno. I'd like to see some newer creative terms as non-binary pronouns rather than erasing the whole of singular/plural conjugation.
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Posted by crumbsroom 10/06/2022 5:15 pm | #9 |
Maybe that's my problem, I dunno..
I think you could drive a truck through the space where I get confused by and probably am totally outdated on this issue. I am not going to pretend to know the proper way forward when I sometimes get hung up on one of the fundamental issues trans people face--the disconnect between their physical sex and what they internally identify as. I of course understand the essential idea that these two things aren't necessarily going to be in sync, but still can find myself wrestling with the notion that this discrepancy in some way is in need of correction. Why does a female oriented brain need to be housed in a female body? Why isn't this disparity just as natural as anything else? Outside of societal expectations, how is this an actual problem? Sure, in matters of sexual function it seems pretty clear cut. But I think this is very far from a sexually based matter. And that's when I get confused. Would a trans person raised in a society that does not put these gender expectations on their population actually have any distress if they don't entirely sync up this way? Of course, this is a moot hypothetical, because we don't live in that society....but this is how my brain works, and how I get tripped over completely understanding what their situation really is. I'm as ignorant as fuck.
Of course, I think I can be somewhat absolved from this ignorance since I'm a person who would be quite happy having no physical self at all, so it's kind of impossible to explain to me the need for me to be seen as anything specific. I reject maleness. I reject femaleness. I don't even know what I identify as, if I'm being honest. But it's also never caused me any distress. But, I'm also a giant weirdo who doesn't understand anything in this world, so my personal ambivalence in these matters should be taken with an enormous grain of salt. I don't expect other people to be as detached from society and its expectatations as I am. I know some things matter to some people a great deal that don't mean a rats ass to me.
Overall though, I'm completely fine with the idea that I just don't get it. And that, regardless of this, these are problems that still are in need addressing. And we have to change how we identify people in order to make them not feel invisible or subjugated to expectations they shouldn't have put on them because of their genitals. I'm 100 percent in support of giving this community whatever they need in order to be able to function. Especially if its as completely irrelevant to me as what pronouns they use. Or what bathroom they piss in.
But, in specific regards to this article, I also know the basic side of the worst in human nature where certain kinds of people can't help but grab at showy nonsense to prove their uniqueness. It's as old as time itself, and yes, is frequently used to try and excuse the behavior of those who act like garbage. And gender rights is just the most recent in a long line of things some people who have no claim to, are jumping on simply because....they're cunts?
Basically, what I'm saying about this is I don't lose any sleep over not giving respect to the very specific wishes of how someone wants to be addressed, when they couldn't care less about how they address everyone else that they are treating like shit. I literally couldn't give a fuck about what kind of cockroach Ezra Miller wants to identify with. Whatever it is, he should be promptly stepped on.
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Posted by Jinnistan 10/06/2022 7:55 pm | #10 |
I think you could drive a truck through the space where I get confused by and probably am totally outdated on this issue. I am not going to pretend to know the proper way forward when I sometimes get hung up on one of the fundamental issues trans people face--the disconnect between their physical sex and what they internally identify as. I of course understand the essential idea that these two things aren't necessarily going to be in sync, but still can find myself wrestling with the notion that this discrepancy in some way is in need of correction. Why does a female oriented brain need to be housed in a female body? Why isn't this disparity just as natural as anything else? Outside of societal expectations, how is this an actual problem? Sure, in matters of sexual function it seems pretty clear cut. But I think this is very far from a sexually based matter. And that's when I get confused. Would a trans person raised in a society that does not put these gender expectations on their population actually have any distress if they don't entirely sync up this way? Of course, this is a moot hypothetical, because we don't live in that society....but this is how my brain works, and how I get tripped over completely understanding what their situation really is. I'm as ignorant as fuck.
Clearly it's out of my wheelhouse as well, but I do believe that the overall problem is this issue of "social expectations" and how we use or allow these expectations to dictate our attributes of self. Physically, scientifically, there really isn't very much difference between the sexes - the chromosomes that lead our endocrine systems to secrete specific hormones. Any other physical differences in our frames and shapes are directly formed from these hormones. Outside of the endocrine-limbic part of the brain (which regulates hormone release) there have been no designated neurological differences between a male or female (or gay/straight, trans/cis) brain. Sometimes hormones can affect certain behaviors like impulse control, self-restraint, sexual drive, but nothing to suggest that it has much to do with our more interior selves, our interests and passions, our rationality, our quality of consciousness or our social and self-reflective skills. So, in that, I think that the perception of these more or less absolute gender differences - the whole Venus and Mars bullshit - is a fiction that needs to be broken down to where our sex and genitals are as arbitrary as other physical attributes like blood type or eye color. This is why I'm most sympathetic to the "non-binary" designation, and if I were a teen today I would probably identify as such on GP, as a middle finger to these social expectations more than anything.
Obviously skin color would seem like a bad sign for how far we have yet to go. Unfortunately, because of our original sin of creating separation between people of different ethnicity, of different blood essentially, we've created cultural variations which can be used to essentialize these arbitrary differences. Perhaps there's an evolutionary imperative to these variations, and I definitely appreciate the variety, but it comes at the cost of centuries of ethnic strife and competitive bigotry. An easier example of an arbitrary physical attribute would be birthdays, and we do have a horseshit belief system regarding the Zodiac which characterizes various attributes onto people based on the time of year we're born which most children are exposed to (and influenced by) at a pretty formative level of their self-building. The upshot is that most people (that I know anyway) disregard this system by adulthood, but some of it has residual presumptions we carry with us.
As much as I'm in favor of shedding these kinds of elementary prejudices and shaping ourselves to conform with their strictures, I still have to draw the line at preserving the scientifc designation of 'sex' as a biological function of reproduction (to our interests, primarilly mammalian), simply because that simply happens to be the objective science of these organs. It is irrelevant to the subjective attributes of the self, so I see no need to deny it. Yet, I will sometimes see where even the biological nature of sex is being questioned and deemed a myth by some on the left. I honestly don't see how this helps anybody. The germane question that needs to be challenged is to what degree should our sexual organs define our intimate selves, and this question, and its inevitable answer, does not require our collective denial of these organs in order to transcend our perception of what they make us into.
Or what bathroom they piss in.
This is the non-est of non-issues. What's the purpose of separating bathrooms by gender in the first place? It's purely a psychological exercise, and maybe we should examine that psychology to ask whether or not it's healthy. For children especially, it creates a sense of "other" right from the beginning, that a different set of genitals is something you don't want to have any contact with. I hope it's inevitable that we'll get to a point where we can look back and laugh at all of those old savages who couldn't figure out how to have unisex stalls in a single room.
But, in specific regards to this article, I also know the basic side of the worst in human nature where certain kinds of people can't help but grab at showy nonsense to prove their uniqueness. It's as old as time itself, and yes, is frequently used to try and excuse the behavior of those who act like garbage. And gender rights is just the most recent in a long line of things some people who have no claim to, are jumping on simply because....they're cunts?
I don't know Miller's sincerity in his sexual identity, but it doesn't really matter to the apparent fact that he's a narcissist, possibly with a personality disorder, who has a streak of dominating, manipulating and abusing others in his sphere of influence. I don't believe that most transgender people suffer from similar pathologies, and while I understand why taking the piss out of Ezra here may seem to some as smearing the entire transgender community at large, I don't think that argument stands up without a belief in the unified infallibility of everyone identifying as such. Take Jussie Smollett, a fine example of many of today's most potent pathologies. Calling him out for his selfish shenanigans shouldn't be read as insinuating anything about gay or black people in toto. Narcissitic sociopaths come in all colors and predilections.
I literally couldn't give a fuck about what kind of cockroach Ezra Miller wants to identify with.
I don't know if I'd give a fuck, but definitely a quarter or two to hear some of this crazy shit: “Ezra is Jesus, and Tokata’s an apocalyptic Native American spider goddess, and their union is supposed to bring about the apocalypse". I mean, I could listen to shit like this all day, as long as I didn't have to be in the same room with hi...them. I mean, both of thems.
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Posted by Rampop II 10/07/2022 1:07 am | #11 |
Y'all best believe, with a background in Linguistics, ol' Rampop will definitely be chiming in heavy on this one. But I have got to get away from this computer at the moment. So before I go wrenching my wrists wonking into the wee hours about functors, language control (eg. the failed Esperanto movement, and the futile edicts of the French Ministry of Culture), and the critical period for grammar acquisition, I'll have to extract myself clawing and screaming from this Hot Zone for tonight and leave a few pithy calling cards:
My neighbor (who is gay, incidentally, for whatever that's worth), on the current gendered pronoun movement:
"You'll have to re–write the whole fucking language."
Changing vocab (like substituting firefighter for fireman) is relatively easy, like changing a glove or a hat. Forcibly changing the grammar of a language is more akin to skeletal surgery.
It's worth noting that "non–native" speakers of English now vastly outnumber us "native speakers."
I'm sorry we were born into a world where a language with gender–specific third–person singular pronouns has become the international lingua franca. At least it's not a Romance language like Spanish or Italian?
Speaking of which...
[img]https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ySO2oCy87aXXdcayoRjdTMZri08=/0x0:3300x3300/1320x743/filters:focal(1386x1386:1914x1914):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/65475075/Latinx_02_square.14.jpg[/img]
Image source: Vox: The gender–neutral term that's supposed to be for everyone, well, isn't.
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Posted by Jinnistan 10/07/2022 11:49 am | #12 |
The embedded genders in Romance languages is definitely a whole other ball of wax. I have no idea how to "fix" this without discarding them entirely. But I also don't understand how these words are inherently offensive. I don't understand how a man would feel emasculated for living in a casa (feminine 'house') or a woman who feels the patriarchal sting from eating pollo (masculine 'chicken').
And this gets into my long-simmering distrust in this recent larger project of trying to change people's ideas and behavior by changing the language. That seems like a very top-bottom way of fomenting social change. Language reflects human behavior, but I'm not convinced that it informs it.
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Posted by Jinnistan 10/07/2022 12:20 pm | #13 |
I've spoken to Rampop before about the 'Latinx' thing.
Here's my issue with that: in modern America, the people that we refer to as "Latinos" or "Hispanic" are by and large mostly people of indigenous descent. Now not entirely, as there's been a lot of admixture here between indigenous Americans, Iberian colonists (including some Sephardic Jews) and transplanted African slaves, so it's very much a melting pot below the border as it is here. But if I were thinking in a true and righteous woke-mode, then I would feel that maybe the issue is that we're fundamentally labeling these people based on Latin or Spanish being their primary distinction. Which is another symptom of the colonialist yoke, right? I'm less interested that many indigenous languages are ungendered than I am that they should maybe be promoted in use above the tongue of their conquistadors.
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Posted by Rampop II 10/25/2022 10:59 pm | #14 |
I know this is an old thread, and I know we have plenty of current stuff to discuss (I didn't know at first who this "Ye" character was), but...
Does anybody else notice any similarity among all the women in this photo?
I don't wanna be mean; Life is the one that's mean, apparently. I'll just say it so no one else has to:
It looks like Ezra has a thing for ugly white women.
Or maybe that's just the majority demographic of his fan base. Or maybe it's just the sweet spot in his fan base, those willing to position their hands as demonstrated in the second photo. "The hem's gotta be here somewhere..."
That one little boy in the first photo, though... I feel sorry for his ass...
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Posted by Jinnistan 10/25/2022 11:20 pm | #15 |
That's not Ezra there. That's Jared Leto. We don't have any photos yet from Ezra's Icelandic cult hostel.
I can only see clearly maybe 4 or 5 women in that photo (I'm not going to count the children), so I don't think it's a fair representation. I will say that I have to assume that a big part of the demographic susceptible to paying, I dunno, at least 5 figures to go to something like Jared Leto's Jesus Island is 1) loads of disposable income; 2) not the stablest current relationships. I guess you can make of that what you will.
