Anybody watching the Jan 6 hearings?

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Posted by Rampop II
7/13/2024 11:02 pm
#141

No matter what generic search terms I enter about the incident, the reports are not mentioning the glass, instead repeating "Trump says" he was shot in the ear. 

I'm anxious to hear the back story on this shooter.

Yeah the suspense of not knowing is torturous. The very air seems thinner from all the held breath and tautened assholes. Cue the conspiracy theories. Hopefully no pogroms. 
Accepting submissions for potential conspiracy theory game shows. 

 
Posted by Rampop II
7/13/2024 11:05 pm
#142

Jinnistan wrote:

The Lord Almighty sure is trying to make this year as 1968 as possible.
 

No doubt. The comparison is staggering. 
So where's all the goddamn acid!?!?!?

 
Posted by Rampop II
7/13/2024 11:13 pm
#143

Jinnistan wrote:

(Not AI apparently)

Is it just me or is the secret service doing a horrible job protecting the president's head and face for all those perfect shots of him shaking his fist?

 
Posted by Rampop II
7/13/2024 11:18 pm
#144

NBC: "Federal investigators have tentatively identified the man who shot at Trump today in Pennsylvania: He is about 20 and is from Pennsylvania, according to five senior U.S. law enforcement officials briefed on the matter."

Not much to go on. You know, those about–twenty–year–old Pennsylvanians.

 
Posted by crumbsroom
7/13/2024 11:22 pm
#145

Trump's still a pussy.

 
Posted by Rampop II
7/14/2024 12:09 am
#146

Jinnistan wrote:

Now the reports are that Trump wasn't shot, but that the shooter hit one of his teleprompters and Trump was cut with a flying piece of broken glass shard.

I'm not seeing the teleprompter shards mentioned in any mainstream outlet aside from Hindustan Times. Well I guess Vox counts, but they only reference another Vox reporter who cited an unnamed law enforcement source in a video on X. The American mainstream has been reporting "Trump says he was shot in the ear" for the past few hours, without mentioning anything about the teleprompter. Notice they neither confirm nor deny that he was hit by the bullet, they just report that he says he was hit by a bullet. Not that it makes much of a difference. I mean........ why split hairs? [rimshot]
Amusingly here's the only other use of the word "teleprompter" I've found in any of the mainstream reporting on this incident:

From AP: "Biden, speaking without a teleprompter, said he was waiting for additional information before formally calling the attack an attempted assassination..."

Because it's all about whether Biden used a teleprompter...
Meanwhile Republicans are already blaming Democrats and the liberal media for the assassination attempt. 
GA Rep. Mike Collins is actually accusing Biden himself of ordering the assassination attempt.
Texas Rep. Ronny Jackson, Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance, South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, and other Republican lawmakers are also releasing raging all–caps statements condemning Democrats' and liberals' "violent rhetoric" as directly responsible for the attack. Seems they are leaping at the chance to draw false equivalence with the MAGA rhetoric preceding Jan 6, if not to eclipse the memory of it it altogether. Hypocrisy is their speciality. 
I feel sick. 

 
Posted by Rampop II
7/14/2024 2:24 am
#147

Suspect is 20-yo Thomas Matthew Crooks of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania. No word on motive, yet, and not much is known about him, either.

Last edited by Rampop II (7/14/2024 2:28 am)

 
Posted by Jinnistan
7/14/2024 5:39 am
#148

Rampop II wrote:

Whoever this dumb fuck was, he just handed Trump the election (if there was any doubt at this point)

I doubt it's going to move the needle much.  Any Trump supporter is already energized enough regardless, and it's not like some Dems are going to flip out of sympathy.

Rampop II wrote:

Meanwhile Republicans are already blaming Democrats and the liberal media for the assassination attempt. 
GA Rep. Mike Collins is actually accusing Biden himself of ordering the assassination attempt.
Texas Rep. Ronny Jackson, Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance, South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, and other Republican lawmakers are also releasing raging all–caps statements condemning Democrats' and liberals' "violent rhetoric" as directly responsible for the attack. 

Must be all of that hateful talk about.....gun control?


 
Posted by Jinnistan
7/14/2024 5:56 am
#149

Speaking of gun control, I wonder if the Republicans will be rethinking this decision.


 
Posted by Rampop II
7/14/2024 1:42 pm
#150

An interview with a former classmate gives the impression that this kid was one of those quietly insane loners who was constantly bullied... for wearing fatigues to school. 




If true, at least it could help deflate people's attempts to claim the incident for their own political stance. 

 
Posted by Rampop II
7/14/2024 8:46 pm
#151

 WSJ:
“If someone would say something to his face, he would just kind of stare at them,” said Julianna Grooms, who graduated one year after Crooks. “People would say he was the student who would shoot up high school.”

 ABC News:
Myers and another student said that Crooks tried to join the high school's rifle team but was rejected and asked not to return after a "preseason" session.

“He didn't just not make the team, he was asked not to come back because how bad of a shot he was, it was considered like, dangerous,” said Myers.

Last edited by Rampop II (7/14/2024 9:29 pm)

 
Posted by Rampop II
7/15/2024 12:04 am
#152

So the picture we're getting so far is that this was just some kid, largely apolitical, with a vital screw loose. That's somewhat of a relief, even if it's cold comfort. So how the fuck did this kid get past secret service and cops and security apparatus, climbing up a building with rifle and into a position for a perfect shot? Echoes of Jan 6 in that security seems to have been caught with their pants down. This kid didn't just kill one person and wound three others, he potentially brought us within a breath of an American Intifada. 

 
Posted by Rampop II
7/15/2024 12:10 am
#153

Oh. He might have been a gun enthusiast. Unless he got the shirt some other way. 

 
Posted by Rampop II
7/15/2024 4:25 pm
#154

Mishandled documents case DISMISSED?!?!??? WWHHHATTTTT?????
Oh, on the basis of what Fuckface Clarence Pubic Hair Thomas wrote in his concurring opinion on Presidential immunity: the special counsel is unconstitutional.
When I woke up this morning I had temporarily forgotten about the nightmare I was waking up to.

 
Posted by Jinnistan
7/15/2024 4:54 pm
#155

Rampop II wrote:

Oh. He might have been a gun enthusiast. Unless he got the shirt some other way. 

Worst shot in his high school gun club, I hear.  They kicked him out.  This is probably why firearms shouldn't be sold outside of a "well-regulated militia".  (I know his dada apparently bought the gun, I'm just saying.)

The bullshit was predictable.  "False Flag!", "Biden's Orders!", "DEI!"  It's pretty much clockwork on the internet, but sad to see it spill out onto Republican tweets and right-leaning cable news.  I also am seeing a lot of talk about "they" and "them", and likewise suggestions that this was a larger plan than a lone shooter.  Again, such talk is inevitable, but this is precisely the kind of talk which can only exacerbate the nudge toward more retributive violence.  It obviously should be strongly discouraged.  It will be very interesting to see how this pans out at the RNC convention.  We'll undoubtedly see all of the stuff about how great and tough Trump is, some may even claim a certain divine fortune.  But we'll see how the party stands up to their post-shooting calls to "cool the rhetoric".  I'm guessing it won't take long to fail the test.  And that's not just because Tucker Carlson is slated to speak, but because anyone asked him to be there at all doesn't bode well for a lack of crazy talk.

Milwaukee mayor, Cavalier Johnson (ace name, btw), whose city is hosting the RNC convention, and will be largely responsible for the event's security, brought up the issue of gun control during an interview on right-leaning NewsNation, only to get shut down by host Leland Vittert (not so ace name, imo) claiming that such talk about guns was "too early".  Well, why not?  It seems that guns - specifically high-powered assault rifles like the AR-15 used in the assassination attempt - are a lot more relevant to the issue than, say, DEI hires

There are serious questions for why this particular rooftop had gone unsecure, or why Secret Service "spotters" were unable to spot the gunman before several attendants on the ground.  Some people are hating on the unidentified police officer who had attempted to climb onto the roof, but ducked out once the gunman aimed his rifle at him.  Not only is this an understandable response, but since this inadvertently caused the gunman to panic and rashly take his shots, without taking the care to properly aim, this distraction very well may have saved Trump's life. 

I still don't see the needle moving very much on the issue.  The Dems will only have themselves to blame for giving up at this point.


 
Posted by Jinnistan
7/15/2024 5:16 pm
#156

Rampop II wrote:

Mishandled documents case DISMISSED?!?!??? WWHHHATTTTT?????
Oh, on the basis of what Fuckface Clarence Pubic Hair Thomas wrote in his concurring opinion on Presidential immunity: the special counsel is unconstitutional.
When I woke up this morning I had temporarily forgotten about the nightmare I was waking up to.

That was next on my docket...

On the more optimistic note, this ruling will undoubtedly be appealed up to the 11th Circuit, and even if it makes it back to SCOTUS, it's not necessarily guaranteed that they will support the dismissal, as Clarence Thomas was the only justice to mention his qualms about the legality of the Special Prosecutor, and had to write his own separate opinion for it.  That suggests that the other conservatives weren't willing to go that far.  (Although Brent Kavanaugh, for one, has specifically railed against the precedent of Morrison v. Olsen, a 1988 decision which allowed for an Independent Counsel, which is a very similar appointment.)  Jack Smith will also quite likely ask to have Aileen Cannon recused from the case, and judging from the criticism of her work from legal analysts, I'd say that has a pretty good shot.  Sure, this will all take a pretty good chunk of time, but this case was not going to see a jury this year regardless.

There's talk that this decision dropped today to slip by under the coverage of Trump's shooting.  I doubt that.  I think that Cannon wanted to drop this today as an opening salvo for the RNC convention, where it will definitely be celebrated.

It's worth noting what Thomas actually wrote in his minority concurring decision:

If this unprecedented prosecution is to proceed, it must be conducted by someone duly authorized to do so by the American people. The lower courts should thus answer these essential questions concerning the Special Counsel’s appointment before proceeding.

Aileen Cannon did not do that.  In contrast to her notorious "slow-walking" of every little minute motion in the case thus far, Cannon rather hastly decided that she was simply going to use Thomas' asking the question as its own inherent answer, and unilaterally dropped the case on the basis of the existence of the question.  And the fact that no other justice was williing to even sign on to that question apparently failed to phase her.

And on the really weird and wild side, this could possibly also cause Hunter Biden's case to get thrown out because, um, he was charged by Special Prosecutor David Weiss.  Personally, I'd rather see both Donald and Hunter get convicted, myself.


 
Posted by Rampop II
7/15/2024 5:21 pm
#157

One last thing before my head explodes:

Anther former classmate of Crooks describes him as "definitely conservative."

That's all I can take for now. I'm stepping outside for some air. Where did everybody go? Was it something I said? I'm going to have to shift gears, here, before what's left of my precious little naive infant patriotic brain is dissolved in my own stomach acid. I have to loosen my tenacious white–knuckle grip on my undying idealistic optimism and faith in the fortitude of our beloved system, but I won't abandon it. I'll wrap it in a soft warm blanket, sedate it with a lullaby, and gently lower it into a basket safe among the reeds for its own preservation, lest the strength of my arms give out somewhere amidst these shadows. The feeling is like being back in the South. I left the South to escape this kind of oppressive redneck rabble rule. How simple–minded of me. It didn't even have to chase me down. It's been festering and lying in wait all along. 

 
Posted by Jinnistan
7/15/2024 5:39 pm
#158

It's like my posts are invisible....

Here's a little "d'aww" moment which should maybe be used for evidence of bias:

Judge who dismissed Trump case says prosecutor should have taken her more seriously

I bet Jack Smith didn't even notice her new mascara.


 
Posted by Rampop II
7/15/2024 11:01 pm
#159

Jinnistan wrote:

It's like my posts are invisible....

I think we might've been writing our posts at the exact same time. 
Anybody else have a political crisis hangover today? I actually deleted all the news websites from my bookmarks this morning. It's not them. It's me. I just couldn't hold my newsjunk. I had to take the keys away. 

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Posted by Jinnistan
7/16/2024 2:30 pm
#160

If people - especially anyone considering themselves to be good Christians - need a useful metric to determine the character of the candidate that they would want to support for President, perhaps one could consider the case of the family of Corey Comperatore, the man who was fatally shot in the head during Trump's rally.  Comperatore's widow has shared that "she has not received a condolence call from Trump", although she did receive a personal call from Joe Biden, which she declined: "I didn't talk to Biden.  I didn't want to talk to him.  My husband was a devout Republican and he would not have wanted me to talk to him."

So when we see all of the cheering at the RNC rally about "God's hand" which protected Trump, the "Lion", and Tim Scott try to turn this miracle into a joyous revival, maybe we should ask why "God alone" decided to not protect a random family man who was truly courageously trying to protect his family.  Maybe "God" is the wrong force involved here.
 


 


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