Plato Shrimp / Watching Movies Alone with crumbsroom

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/10/2022 12:36 pm

Just because, the list I submitted for 'best of 2010s

'It’s Such a Beautiful Day
The Florida Project
The Act of Killing
The Raid 2
Exit Through the Gift Shop
Melancholia
Stinking Heaven
Black Swan
Inside Llewyn Davis
Django Unchained
Wolf of Wall Street
Inherent Vice
Computer Chess
Warrior
Phoenix
8th Grade
One More Time With Feeling
Blackcoat’s Daughter
Killing of a Sacred Deer
In the Family
Yakuza Apocalypse
Everybody Wants Some
Finding Vivian Maier
Alchemist Cookbook
Winter Brothers

No doubt forgot a lot. Intentionally left a couple off I normally would put there, just because I'm bored of liking them

**Posted by Jinnistan** 12/11/2022 8:12 pm

crumbsroom wrote:
Blackcoat’s Daughter

M'man.

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/13/2022 12:56 pm

I'm literally at the point where I want to drive to whatever elevator shaft Yarn is currently living at the bottom of, and kick him in the nuts over his fundamental misunderstandings of the arguments he is trying to counter in the high frame rate thread. Like even that autobot Yoda seems to understand the general issue with image smoothing and the moral issues it presents when you change the intent or look or function of a film with new technolgoy.

He really is the Confused Matthew of RT refugees.

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/15/2022 10:29 am

As a fan of all the bands, Meet Me in the Bathroom is an easy watch. But it completely missed the boat on depicting the sense of community between the bands, their early years and origins, and the books intertwining of the music world and the online critical community that was beginning to change music journalism. It also is really poor at telling any one story it gets into, just sort of dropping details without any proper context or sense of momentum. Basically, I enjoyed it even though it isn't very good. Which is a shame because it appears they had lots of unseen footage.

**Posted by Jinnistan** 12/15/2022 7:31 pm

crumbsroom wrote:
As a fan of all the bands, Meet Me in the Bathroom is an easy watch.

I don't about all. I mean, Ryan Adams?

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/15/2022 9:28 pm

Jinnistan wrote:
crumbsroom wrote:
As a fan of all the bands, Meet Me in the Bathroom is an easy watch.
I don't about all. I mean, Ryan Adams?

I don't hate Ryan Adams' music. But not much of a fan, no. He's mostly just a hanger on and not really part of that scene anyways.

**Posted by Jinnistan** 12/15/2022 9:33 pm

crumbsroom wrote:
I don't hate Ryan Adams' music. But not much of a fan, no. He's mostly just a hanger on and not really part of that scene anyways.

I straight up hate Ryan Adams. The music is just faceless.

I haven't read the book, only that excerpt when it came out that made Adams out to be a real bastard and drug pusher.

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/15/2022 9:54 pm

Jinnistan wrote:
crumbsroom wrote:
I don't hate Ryan Adams' music. But not much of a fan, no. He's mostly just a hanger on and not really part of that scene anyways.
I straight up hate Ryan Adams. The music is just faceless.

I haven't read the book, only that excerpt when it came out that made Adams out to be a real bastard and drug pusher.

He comes off horrible in the book.

It's a very entertaining book. And there is more there than the filmmakers gave it credit for....which would be fine if they added something else of some substance, but they really don't. At most at times it pretends to be talking about deeper things, but it's cliched crap that seems thrown in their to make it feel heavier.

A real disappointment....even though I still was entertained

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/18/2022 1:18 am

Terrifier 2 and Belly are two movies I should absolutely despise, and somehow, here we are. With vague loves for both of them.

**Posted by Jinnistan** 12/18/2022 2:06 am

crumbsroom wrote:
Terrifier 2 and Belly are two movies I should absolutely despise, and somehow, here we are. With vague loves for both of them.

Is that Belly by Hype Williams? That has some down low cred.

Not really interested in Terrifier, but that may be due to the number of horrible posters who use the film as their avatar.

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/18/2022 2:08 am

And yes Ryan Adams music is faceless. And yes that is as good a reason as any to hate it.

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/18/2022 2:22 am

Jinnistan wrote:
crumbsroom wrote:
Terrifier 2 and Belly are two movies I should absolutely despise, and somehow, here we are. With vague loves for both of them.
Is that Belly by Hype Williams? That has some down low cred.

Not really interested in Terrifier, but that may be due to the number of horrible posters who use the film as their avatar.

Yes, Hype WIlliams one.

And I think it is fair not wanting to be affiliated with Terrifier fans by proxy of watching their favorite movie of all time. It's actually completely fair not to participate in what its doing at all.

The two actually have some similarities. They are almost equally empty and superficial. Equally willing to cater to the almost non-existent value systems of their most obvious fans. But they are also by two directors who seem to embrace the hollowness of what they are doing in kind of inspiring ways. And while neither movie should be considered great by most measures, I really responded to both of these.

**Posted by Jinnistan** 12/18/2022 2:38 am

crumbsroom wrote:
And yes Ryan Adams music is faceless. And yes that is as good a reason as any to hate it.

I've always hated him. Somewhat irrationally, but I could smell asshole coming off of him. Now that it's confirmed that he's a manipulative gaslighting prick who was grooming a number of his underage fans, it only confirms what my gut told me all along.

**Posted by Rock** 12/18/2022 8:18 am

Belly has a really interesting visual style and a handful of great sequences (the opening in the club, the attack on the Jamaican gangster's mansion).

Nas' performance and screenplay, though. Yeesh.

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/18/2022 11:48 am

Rock wrote:
Belly has a really interesting visual style and a handful of great sequences (the opening in the club, the attack on the Jamaican gangster's mansion).

Nas' performance and screenplay, though. Yeesh.

Everything with the Jamaican is great. And the movie frequently looks great. But their is an absolute void of suspense or emotion during any scene where we might expect some kind of engagement with the audience. And I don't say that as an insult, more as an interesting illustration of how empty these bling dreams are for our protagonists. So much so even moments where everything is on the line feel insignificant, but also grand and beautiful and full of lights.

Nas isn't the only offender in acting. Other than TBoz who is decent and DMX who is passable, the acting is uniformly bad. And the dialogue terrible. The script garbage. And the staging of any dramatic scene very very poor. It lives and idea in its moments of superficial grandeur. And Jamaican patois

**Posted by Jinnistan** 12/18/2022 12:53 pm

I didn't mean to suggest that Belly was good, exactly. But it has a solid fan base, and benefited from the non-existent expectations.

It's similar to Snake Eyes. Some impressive technical work, completely devoid of brains, but better than anyone could have guessed from the critical reception. Also, not one of the best films from 1998.

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/18/2022 3:14 pm

Jinnistan wrote:
I didn't mean to suggest that Belly was good, exactly. But it has a solid fan base, and benefited from the non-existent expectations.

It's similar to Snake Eyes. Some impressive technical work, completely devoid of brains, but better than anyone could have guessed from the critical reception. Also, not one of the best films from 1998.

What kept me away for so long was the fans it has. The ones I know generally hold most films at a distance and have generally terrible taste but deeply gravitate towards this. Almost like a black Boondock Saints. Plus the fact 'directed by Hype Williams' comes with all sorts of lowered expectations. You can kind of guess what the movie is going to be....and it barely surprises on this front. But somehow it sorta works and, with a handful of terrible scenes notwithstanding, i really can't complain about it much.

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/18/2022 5:45 pm

I haven't read the whole thing yet, but there is a good article about Belly on Film Comment by Nick Pinkerton. He gets it.

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/19/2022 12:33 am

Crimewave. Sam Raimi. Yes.

**Posted by crumbsroom** 12/19/2022 2:03 am