Jinnistan wrote:

crumbsroom wrote:

Oh, Mani. Apparently being cool as shit can become a fatal condition.

As long as we're excepting the more 'shoegaze' types - Spacemen 3, My Bloody Valentine, Spiritualized - is there any question that the Stone Roses are the supreme Brit-Pop circa 89-92 band?  Even though they only had that one really good album (or two if you add the B-side and ephemera Turn to Stone, which is now basically included in the deluxe edition)?  Was there one single original note that Oasis didn't rip off from this album?  And since they are perpetual trailblazers, the Stone Roses had one of the first of the Big Disappointments of 1995 when they finally put out their follow-up.  Mani's bass has definitely aged better than some of the more typical Brit-Pop production stylings.




 

I love Oasis, but that love is built on at most 10 songs. Outside of those ten songs, they were a pretty terrible band. But I'll always appreciate them, because for me, when they cooked, they cooked. And no, not because they were good players, or the songs were that great, or that the Gallagher Brothers aren't empty headed knuckleheads, or Noel isn't the worst lyricist in the history of rock and roll. It was just having that kinda of swagger to sing those stupid songs like they were a matter of life or death. I believe in those shitty songs.

But the Stone Roses obviously crush Oasis. Anyone who would even pretend otherwise needs to have a lager poured over their head. 

And Mani's bass is probably the bands main drawing point for me. And he just seemed to be the easiest going guy, that I always appreciated him when he'd show up in any music bios from that scene. The fact that his death seemed to have been very sudden, just makes it all the sadder.

Jimmy Cliff



 

Tom Stoppard Is Dead would probably have made a pretty good play.

Steve Cropper, foundational '60s rock/soul guitarist behind most of the classic Stax/Volt hits - Booker T & the MGs, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, Sam & Dave, etc etc.  Beloved by every single guitarist most normies profess to admire.

Awful news. R.I.P.

A few of Rob Reiner’s unrealized projects…

An Angela Davis biopic starring Lynn Whitfield.

An improv comedy series for NBC about a family of psychologists titled Everyday Life, with Reiner executive producing, directing, and co–starring with Mercedes Ruehl.

An adaptation of John Webb’s Whiskey River: "The script concerns an American soldier who is injured in Iraq and returns to the United States. Before completing rehabilitation, he is called back to active duty. His father, in an attempt to save his son's life, kidnaps him."

A film adaptation of Peter Ferry's novel Travel Writing that explores personal obsession and the blurred lines between fact and fiction, about a high school English teacher and travel writer who, after witnessing a car accident that kills a beautiful woman named Lisa Kim, becomes obsessed with Kim, with thoughts of whether it was an accident, whether he could have prevented it, the obsession's impact on his relationship with his girlfriend, and whether he even witnessed the accident at all.

A remake of Soapdish based on Ben Schwartz’s script El Fuego Caliente, which was featured on the 2011 Black List of “most liked” screenplays not yet produced. (Hot Fire? Slut!)

An untitled film about the legal challenges to Proposition 8.

An adaptation of Steve Israel’s novel The Global War on Morris, about the perversion of the global war on terror into the domestic assault on civil rights.

And last but not least The Spy and the Asset, a TV project about the relationship between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. 

...So we can thumbtack that strand of yarn to the conspiracy wall, especially given the immediate geyser of intriguing headlines I’m refraining from regurgitating here; I figure we can all read those on our own.
 

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I mean.... there's been a lot of jumping to conclusions already, because Reiner is a high-profile Democrat donor.  And this also happened during Hanukkah, right after the violence in Australia.  All we know is that Rob Reiner and his son, who has a history of drug addiction and was reportedly "acting strange", had an public argument the previous night.

Jinnistan wrote:

Nah man.  His son was a drug addict fuckup who was probably getting advice from his ChatGPT. 

There's no conspiracy here.  Just tragedy.

Well yeah, let there be no mistaking where I stand in that I don't embrace jumping to such conclusions nor condone the prompt exploitation of any tragedy for rhetorical ends (even if I occasionally fall short of upholding my own boundaries). When I say "conspiracy wall" I do mean it in sarcastic jest to imply the absurdity of jumping to any such outlandish conclusions. Even if I do confess to having  an inner imp of my own, I don't actually believe anything the little fucker says.

Jinnistan wrote:

I hope we can all agree that Trump, via his own obituary for Reiner, is the biggest asshole here.

At first I assumed it was just more of his typical attention–whore narcissism trying to yank back the spotlight and perpetually make everything about him, which is why I wanted to refrain from complying with his attempted threadjacking of Rob Reiner's remembrances. But upon reading about Reiner's final unfinished project being The Spy and the Asset, my own inner conspiracy theorist suddenly couldn't help seeing "the asset's" crazy post as "protesting too much." But no, I don't actually believe it... necessarily... and I'm not running with it, I just couldn't help dropping the little hint in bad taste.

So fuck that guy, let him not steal Reiner's spotlight, a man who just "wanted to make people happy."

That unrealized project Everyday Life definitely piqued my imagination. I would've watched Rob Reiner star in an improv comedy.

Last edited by Rampop II (12/15/2025 5:37 pm)

I don't have anything to say about the death of Reiner. It is the rare horrible story that somehow cut through my general complete apathy these days and made me feel deeply horrible. 

None of this, of course, was helped when I logged into the movieforums to watch those jackals start speculating about the 'forgotten men' that is at the root of this tragedy, or how this should be a wake up call for everyone to get themselves a gun to put in their nightstand (and, yes, most of this ended up being erased, with the usual threat that anyone who responds to these political provocations is equally bad and just as likely to be banned as those who begin these conversations)

Which, of course begs the question, which creepy right wing cunt has ever been banned from that place? 

But, keep doing the laundry for these alt-right, racist, anti-feminist, quietly proTrump losers that overwhelm your site, Yoda. And keep making sure you let those who say 'nu-uh' to them are just as much of a problem for you.

The most fucked up reaction I read was Jeff Wells of Hollywood Elsewhere suggesting that Reiner should have preemptively killed his own son to avoid this situation. Which was so deranged that I actually laughed.

I suppose this is appropriate and respectable enough to stick here.