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crumbsroom wrote:
I did. I wouldn't even know to begin how to talk about it. It almost feels mandatory to first dismantle all of the dumb things people have written about it, but is there even any need to do that? It's not too long. It's not 'woke'. Gladstone isn't getting a native merit badge by the Academy with her nomination.
I assume that people saying these things did not actually watch the movie.
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Is it my favorite Scorsese? No.
I think it's one of his best of the new century, but all of the last three, including Silence and Irishman, are such an impressive late-career run.
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And I didn't even have a problem with Brendan Fraser.
Both minutes he was in it?
And people give Jesse Plemons short shrift because his role got so truncated, but he's still solid in that stone-faced capacity. He gives one of the best lines of the film, when he mentions they're investigating the murders and DiCaprio asks, "What about 'em?" "Oh, like, who done 'em." Subtle and nonchalant, but that's some Coen-level humor, and perfectly captures the sickness of the community's apathy, and Plemons' Tom White disarming like Columbo, staring pleasantly straight through Ernest's thick brow.
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So....there's a Hey Bulldog sequence in Yellow Submarine? I always wondered why that was on the soundtrack. Turns out living on films recorded from TV onto VHS isn't the ideal way to watch movies repeatedly, hundreds of times, after all.
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Jinnistan wrote:
I assume that people saying these things did not actually watch the movie.
I don't blame you for not doing so, but I take it you don't read many reviews on Letterboxd. Or Rex Reed.
FTR, Letterboxd is also where a lot of The Maestro stupid hate comes from.
I think it's one of his best of the new century, but all of the last three, including Silence and Irishman, are such an impressive late-career run.
None of these are my favorites. But I also am happy to concede that all of them are astonishing in that they are coming at the end of any filmmakers career. Pay heed Tarantino....or actually, just fucking retire Tarantino. I'm sure you're cunt ass doesn't have a clue how to age gracefully.
Both minutes he was in it?
Just a complaint I kept hearing over and over....which, yes, considering he's barely in it, seems like a lot of nothing.
And people give Jesse Plemons short shrift because his role got so truncated, but he's still solid in that stone-faced capacity. He gives one of the best lines of the film, when he mentions they're investigating the murders and DiCaprio asks, "What about 'em?" "Oh, like, who done 'em." Subtle and nonchalant, but that's some Coen-level humor, and perfectly captures the sickness of the community's apathy, and Plemons' Tom White disarming like Columbo, staring pleasantly straight through Ernest's thick brow.
Plemons is pretty much always good (at least that I've so far seen)
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crumbsroom wrote:
I don't blame you for not doing so, but I take it you don't read many reviews on Letterboxd. Or Rex Reed.
FTR, Letterboxd is also where a lot of The Maestro stupid hate comes from.
No doubt, but I don't have time to read a bunch of randos so I stick to reading the few people I follow and occasionally reviews that they've liked. It isn't like movieforums though where you'll frequently get opinions about films that they haven't yet seen.
I did do one LBxd review dive on Saltburn, which proved very polarizing, but that was refreshing too as confirmation that not everyone was fooled by that empty piece of shit. Justine Smith's takedown was nice and pithy.
crumbsroom wrote:
None of these are my favorites.
I think what I said in my review is that it's my favorite among his DiCaprio collaborations, and I'll stand by that.
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crumbsroom wrote:
So....there's a Hey Bulldog sequence in Yellow Submarine? I always wondered why that was on the soundtrack. Turns out living on films recorded from TV onto VHS isn't the ideal way to watch movies repeatedly, hundreds of times, after all.
That's exactly what I thought the first time I saw it with the Bulldog sequence intact. Likewise I grew up on the VHS recording my parents snagged from a TV broadcast; watched it countless times through every stage of development. I knew the song, and knew it was on the soundtrack album, but had always assumed it was just included as an extra or something, since I thought I knew that movie backwards and forwards.
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There was a story floating around about a Native American actor complaining about Killers of the Flower Moon. I think that’s inspired some of the dumber takes on the movie. I haven’t seen too much of that in my Letterboxd circle though.
I have seen a lot of negative reviews of Maestro though.
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crumbsroom wrote:
So....there's a Hey Bulldog sequence in Yellow Submarine? I always wondered why that was on the soundtrack. Turns out living on films recorded from TV onto VHS isn't the ideal way to watch movies repeatedly, hundreds of times, after all.
The sequence was removed after the first few screenings, and was reinstated for the 1999 DVD release.
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Rock wrote:
There was a story floating around about a Native American actor complaining about Killers of the Flower Moon. I think that’s inspired some of the dumber takes on the movie.
A lot of the so-called Native criticisms of the film don't actually amount to very much, and the headlines seem to omit a lot of the more positive qualifiers in the comments.
I did see one Native actress, who had nothing to do with the film, who complained about the violence of the film "retraumitizing our bodies" or something. But that's interesting in contrast to criticisms of Oppenheimer that the film failed to explicitly show the violence against the Japanese victims of the bomb. It seems to me like a no-win situation.
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Yeah that unrelated actress is the one I was referring to.
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Crumb, have you seen The Outwaters? I completely hated it, but I feel like you might get something out of it. MKS compared it to Skinamarink, for what it’s worth.
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Rock wrote:
Crumb, have you seen The Outwaters? I completely hated it, but I feel like you might get something out of it. MKS compared it to Skinamarink, for what it’s worth.
I have not. But I think it's very hard to do a Skinamarink kinda movie well, and so I have my doubts.
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"It is like watching a cobra eat a squirrel"
-Werner Herzog
"Boring!"
-Skizzerflake
"This movie is totally excellent!"
*Wylde Stallyns shred*
"Whatever they said"
-crumbsroom
****
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The sexiest film about exorcism.
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Jinnistan wrote:
The sexiest film about exorcism.
Pretty much.
It's seriously great stuff.
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Crumb, I seem to recall you talking about The Scary of Sixty First a while back. Is that true or is my memory playing tricks on me? I remember MKS recommending it to me on the grounds of it being aggressively unlikable.
The reason I bring it up is that I expected to straight up hate it based on what I knew about the director and the premise, but was pretty thoroughly won over by the visual style and the really committed performance by Betsey Brown.
I’d say it’s worth a look if you haven’t seen it.
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Rock wrote:
Crumb, I seem to recall you talking about The Scary of Sixty First a while back. Is that true or is my memory playing tricks on me? I remember MKS recommending it to me on the grounds of it being aggressively unlikable.
The reason I bring it up is that I expected to straight up hate it based on what I knew about the director and the premise, but was pretty thoroughly won over by the visual style and the really committed performance by Betsey Brown.
I’d say it’s worth a look if you haven’t seen it.
I definitely watched it around the same time MKS was talking about it. I know I didn't hate it, like I was gearing up to. And I think there were parts that I thought were good, parts I thought were terrible, and I think parts that made me uncomfortable....but which of these feelings came out on top, I have no idea. Seems like I even forgot to rate it on Letterboxd.
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With his pith helmet, and shovel, and expensive cigars at the ready if he discovers something really good, documentarian Mads Brugger plays investigative journalist in trying to tie up all of the lose ends regarding the many unsolved mysteries that swirl around the 1961 death of UN Secretary Ambassador Hans Hammarskjold. But as he begins to interview locals and starts digging all along the Congo, looking for evidence of conspiracies but frequently finding dead end after dead end, Brugger's film slowly turns on him and he instead begins to explore the ugly need we have to become not so much searchers of the truth, but voyeurs of it. Particularly his own complicity in even making this film.
Paranoid, disturbing and frequently very funny, in the end Cold Case Hammarskjold will end up inviting us to choose between its assortment of peepholes to look through. Whatever is required to satiate our curiosity, making sure by the films end, we will at least come away satisfied in some kind of way. But now maybe finding ourselves to be voyeurs towards a different, maybe even more uncomfortable, kind of truth. One that might make you feel a little guilty for packing that pith helmet.
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No I haven't checked if this YouTube link is even good, or what language it's in, or if it's actually the right movie, but someone should watch it anyways.
But just in case I linked the wrong movie, just forewarning you we probably won't be able to talk about it after and you totally wasted your time.
I will still appreciate the effort though.
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I'm sure if I knew anything about South America, or the history of colonization there, it would get another half star.